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Ampeg SVT Classic with 2 410HLF cabs?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by StingRay85, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Apr 10, 2012 #1
    StingRay85

    StingRay85

    Dec 18, 2011
    Hi guys,

    I just sold my SVT3PRO which I was combining with a 410HLF, as I thought it was time to go all tube. My plan was to exchange my 410HLF with a 610HLF, and go for an SVT-VR. Since the VR doesn't have gain/master control, and I like to go overdrive, the Classic is also an option, allthough many people say it's doesn't sound nearly as good as a "real SVT". But I found someone selling a SVT-CL with a 410HLF, so the combination of 2x 410HLF and an SVT Classic became an option too. I like to play heavy rock, like to play LOUD and with lots of (tube) overdrive (psychedelic, stoner rock), I'm pretty much lost now. 2x410HLF+CL or 610HLF+VR. The price would be more or less the same.

    Any thoughts, pro's and con's?

    Cheers.

    By the way, I play a MM SR5 :)
     
  2. Apr 10, 2012 #2
    Immigrant

    Immigrant In Memoriam

    Jul 2, 2010
    West of Stumptown, USA
    Some say the SVT410HLF is muddy. I haven't had any problems EQing the "muddy" out or them (yes, two) using the CL's mid control and NOT diming the tweeter controls on the back of the cabs. They seem to add click that shows my technique needs work. :D

    The reasons I went with two 410s instead of the 610 or 810:

    1) The SVT410HLF has lower frequency response (according to the Ampeg website) than the 610 or 810. My thinking told me "better for five string".

    2) I'm wimpy. I can either use one cab or both, versatility I wouldn't have with a bigger cab.

    3) My gui**** friends can no longer out-do me. Now I'm both loved and hated.
     
  3. Apr 10, 2012 #3
    StingRay85

    StingRay85

    Dec 18, 2011
    Wow. So you went with the Classic and 2 x 410HLF's... I'm not the first person thinking of the combination.

    What kind of music do you play? Do have you have audio/video of your band playing on full power when you use both cabs? Pictures of your rig? :)

    I think my band mates from the "silent band" will hate me a little too. Our lead guitar player now uses a Peavey Delta Blues 210 30W tube amp :) My SVT3PRO blew him away, allthough I didn't have much headroom left.

    The gitarist of my "loud band" uses a Mesa 50/50 in combination with a vintage Marshall lead amp. He uses 3 4x12 Marshall cabs and an 8x10. I hope with the CL + 2 410HLF's I can be heard as well :)
     
  4. Apr 10, 2012 #4
    BassBob1

    BassBob1

    Dec 21, 2010
    I don't see why that wouldn't work. Use just the one 410 in your quieter band and the 2 for your loud band.

    But... Sweet Jesus in a birch bark canoe!!!
    What kind of venues is your "loud band" playing? The biggest of the big stadiums without a PA?
     
  5. Apr 10, 2012 #5
    Immigrant

    Immigrant In Memoriam

    Jul 2, 2010
    West of Stumptown, USA
    I wondered if I was getting too old because I finally realized there is such a thing as "too loud" no matter what genre and crowd type. Some places even offer bubblegum machines with hearing prevention aids available for the patrons.

    I've (unfortunately) only gigged with mine twice so far, and neither was videoed. Used one cab once, and two the other time. Bigger place, less worry about management complaining. It's currently taking up living room space.
     
  6. Apr 11, 2012 #6
    StingRay85

    StingRay85

    Dec 18, 2011
    I use 15dB earplugs when I play, and when I go to concerts. It's not the same as seeing a band playing 15dB quieter. The problem with the 100dB limit that's coming in Belgium, is that you can hear so much talking in the audience when you're listening to a gig. That's why louder is often better. They are even suggesting that youth houses make a plexiglass shield where the drummer should stay behind so they don't go over the limit :bag:
     
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  7. Apr 11, 2012 #7
    warwick.hoy

    warwick.hoy

    Aug 20, 2006
    Spokane, WA.
    Beta Tester: Source Audio.
    I love how my CL sounds.

    Granted I'm not using said cabs but rather a Avatar B410NEO and an Tolex Era Kustom 2x15.

    Considering dumping the Kustom for a Second B410NEO.

    I've heard a SxS of the CL and the VR (the guy I bought my CL from had both hence his selling of the CL) before I bought and while the VR sounded sweet,...it wasn't big enough of a difference for me to not want the CL. Both were played through an Ampeg 810,...not sure which specific model.

    I'd say go for the CL and the 410

    If interested here is a live recording (cabs mic'd) from a recent Jam.

    [soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/sephyratigre/sets/mecha-shiva-2012-04-07-frozen[/soundcloud]

    Bass = 98' Warwick Thumb Bolt On 5 string and the Avatar is the cab that was mic'd. I will admit there is probably a difference in sound between Ampeg and Avatar, but I'm way jazzed on my tone. As a fuzz lover I keep my Tweeter off.
     
  8. Apr 11, 2012 #8
    livinglow

    livinglow

    Sep 7, 2009
    Jacksonville, FL
    I though all 410HLF cabs were 4 ohm? Will the SVT-CL do 2 ohm?
     
  9. Apr 11, 2012 #9
    warwick.hoy

    warwick.hoy

    Aug 20, 2006
    Spokane, WA.
    Beta Tester: Source Audio.
    It will handle a 2ohm load.
     
  10. Apr 11, 2012 #10
    JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Yes, all SVT's do 4 and 2 ohms. And don't let anyone tell you any different...the SVT-CL is as awesome an amp as any SVT. A little different than the VR and vintage heads, but you can crank the master all the way and use gain to control the volume and get it sounding much more like a VR. Don't know if it's a dead nuts match, but it sounds quite like a VR to me.