Hey everybody, my name is Marc. I am a bass player based out of New Brunswick, New Jersey. I have been searching for the ultimate rig to play through and I am nearing my breaking point. As backround, I am 25 years old, and I started playing bass when I was 22; I was athlete through all of my high school and college days. In my three years experience I have learned that I am a very percussive player, slapping and tapping 80 percent of the time. I like playing fast. Lot of victor wooten meets les claypool for a meeting of the minds type stuff. I have written a few solo songs that very much resemble work like Vic Wooten's song "A Show of Hands". I obviously cannot play up to his speed and caliber, but that is where my head is at. I am currently playing through a Fodera Monarch VW Classic 4 string. Now for background on what I have owned. Bare in mind that I am a high school Calculus teacher and I stiull live in a cheap college house with some friends, so I have had a lot of money at my expense that I have spend foolishly on many rigs that I have returned. I will list the gear in the order that I owned it and Why I stopped playing it: 1.) SWR Workingman's head and Peavey 115 - This was the first setup I had and it served me fine, but I had no idea what I was doing back then. 2.) SWR Workingman's head and SWR Triad (old) - I bought this cabinet from my friend because he was moving on and It was better than what I had. 3.) Ampeg SVT-3 Pro and 410hlf - This was a cool set up, but at this time I started playing with a hard rock/heavy metal band and it was a little to boomy for my taste. 4.) Ampeg SVT-4Pro and Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 1000 - Very Very loud, but the port on the back of the Powerhouse 1000 filled the rooms with muddled bass. 5.)Ampeg SVT-4Pro and Ampeg 810E - I bought this set up because I was big into Mudvayne at the time and wanted to try and match a Ryan MArtini like tone. I played this setup for almost a year. 6.)Eden Metro and Eden 410XLT - I bought this because I was in a store tryin out some basses and the rig sounded great, so much cleaner than the Ampeg stuff. Problem was that the old Metro did not have enough power and broke up at high volumes. 7.) Eden Highwayman as pre into QSC3402 with Eden 410XLT and 215XLT - This was a huge sounding rig, but it sure did take up a lot of space. I wasn't to pleased because I lost a lot of clarity. 8.) Eden Highwayman into QSC3402 with Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 410 and 2 Powerhouse 115's - Once again, a whole lotta stuff. Same as last setup, too much boom. 9.) Eden Highwayman into QSC3402 and 2 Mesa Powerhouse410's - this was a little better than the last rig it had the same volume and was much cleaner. problem is that this rig was way to thin. There was no fullness and roundness to any notes. No Balls. 10.)Eden-Highwayman into QSC 3402 with 2 Eden 410XLT's (revisited) - So I basically went back to my old rig because it was the best I had so far. The reason I had 2 410's is because I wanted it to be loud, but I didn't want them to run as hard so that I could have a cleaner sound. I stuck with this for almost a year as well. 11.)Eden head into Epifani 610NYC - I decided I was going to make a leap and do the Epifani thing. I want to the factory and tried everything. I realized that I much prefered the NYC line over the UL's because the UL's had a little something strange going on in the midrange. I ended up keeping this for a short time, to heavy and awkward. 12.) Aguilar 750 and 2 GS 212's - Really cool set up great look, but it just wasn't as smooth as I wanted. This is when I realized I much prefer 10's over 12's. 13.) Ampeg SVT-4pro and Accugroove tri210L on top of an El Whoppo - Figured I would try this after loving it in the store. I'll tell you what, it is as clean as everyone says and fairly loud, but it does get boomy at high volumes. Especially when you are close to it. I was disappointed. So I made the next move... 14.)Eden Metro head into QSC3402 into 2 Eden 410XLT's - again, back at the eden stuff. It does sound good, but their is still just something off about the sound. 15.)Eden head into 2 Epifani 210NYC's - This set up I got to test pretty good, The bottom end was great, it was really clean, but at High volumes the tweeter was to harsh and when I turned the tweeter down it was like there was no middle ground at that volume, either it was there and harsh or not. 16.) Contemplation of getting the SVT-4Pro again and running it into the AMpeg 410BXT and 115BXT, but I realized I just don't like the ampeg sound. 17.) Eden setup into Phil Jones 16B and 8T - All I have to say is this, it's the cleanest tightest most accurate speaker around, but it has no force to it at all you cannot feel any thump, no thunder, just seemed powerless. Top end was a little strange without a tweeter too. 18.) Euphonic Audio iAMP800 into 2 - 210NL's - Euphonic Audio is probably the nicest sounding gear ever. It's clean, articulate, fast, light, very studio esce sound. Problem is it doesn't sound like it should be used on a stage, Bass was deep but like the phil jones, not forceful and powerful. 19.) SWR 750x and SWR Henry the 8x8 - This rig had punch, a bunch off it, but the super lows of the Henry weren't that evident and the piezo tweeter was just wierd, sounded like flies getting zapped in one of the shocker lights. This is when I truly realized how important the sound and style of the tweeter is to a person who slaps and taps a lot. 20.) Eden Head Setup with 2 Eden 410XLT - So, I'm back at the Eden stuff. It sounds good, still some stuff is off, i just don't know anymore. So, there is the saga. Basically over the course of owning all of this stuff I have realized a few things. Tweeters are a very important tone to slappers and fast articaulate players. I have noticed that a lot of people don't like it, but I like the sound of the Eden Cast Bell Tweeter. It isn't harsh at high volumes and can be finely tuned. Other tweeters like the piezo in the Henry and tweeters in the aguilar and epifani stuff, get very clacky at high volumes, sounds kind of like to high pitched pieces of wood getting smacked together real fast. The things i've noticed about my current setup are that the eden head sounds great. It is flat I don't need to adjust it much and has a nice natural tone. The XLT cabs I have noticed do have a midrange hump. Also, the bottom end of the low E when i strike it just seems to be missing. the E is quieter and less round than the A. So, basically I have been on a quest to try to find a head cabinet combo that will be extremely quick and responsive like the EA, phil jones stuff, will not be clacky at high volumes when doing a lot of fast double pops and flicks on the G string, will be articulate and clear in the upper register on the E, A strings without getting boomy, but will also have full round thump on bottom notes. I don't want the cabinet to miss everything. Good tracking. And yes I have considered the Shroeder stuff, but I would rather order from a company that I know will be able to replace gear for me quickly if I am ever in a jam. So basically after all of this I have realized given my playing style which is percussive and fast, which still desires punch and round/whole notes with excellent articulation, I have narrowed it down to the following setups: Eden WT-800B into 2 Eden 210XST's: I haven't had a chance to play the XST cab's but from what I heard they could do the trick. I want to be a little more articulate than before, I already like the not so extreme tweeter on the eden set to like 12 o'clock, and I really want to have a fuller rounder thump on the low E. Since the 210XST's -3db point is at 30 hz I think this can do the trick. EBS TD650 into EBS 410 and possible a 212 - I haven't played the EBS stuff either, but Marcus Miller sounds great... I have just heard that the EBS stuff is almost overly punchy and fat, and the bottom at 70 hz sounds a little lacking. That's why I suggested the 212 as well. I kind of want to get rid of lugging massive amounts of gear but I will do it if need be. Sound is well more important than portability to me. Epifani UL-902 into either a UL-410 or UL-610 - I dunno, i didn't really like the UL cabs as much as the NYC's but maybe things would be different through their heads. I did like the way the Epifani's sounded just not the tweeter so much, but maybe this setup is different. So, that's what I have somewhat narrowed it down to. I have set up a poll and am curious what you guys think about these three rigs. Don't just answer given what you like, but instead think about what I have been through and the style I play and mix that with what you know about the rigs. Any other gear outside of these are welcomed as well. So, if you have made it through this brutally long description and still care to comment I would much appreciate any advice that you guys can give me... I am a first time TB'r and really need the help. Hopefully I can put an end to this gear hunting madness and get back to the source, my playing. Thanks, Marc.