And my next cab (to compliment an Eden D-410XLT)?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Brendan, Oct 22, 2001.

  1. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Portland, OR
    I'm getting into this whole amp thing, having finally been able to sauce up my amp situation (Crate 1x15 to a Eden Rig!).

    I've got no problem with tone, or bottom end or any complaints in general, however, my guitarist is using a 100w 6x12 rig, which on it's own tends to eclipse all but the air my bass moves. As such, I'm looking to power up the Amp (already a Thread of mine) and get another cab. I'm not nessicarily sold on ONLY Eden, but I really do like their stuff, if that's any help.

    My current cab is 8ohms, and I'm looking for another 8ohm cab to make it an even 4 ohms. Now, here's where I'm lost. What should I get for more volume? 4x10? 2x15? 1x18? Heck, 2x18 :)eek: Bag Eng!) I'm just looking to take it up a notch. What would you suggest for a cab configureation? Once I figure the config, I can go brand shopping...right now I'm just wondering as to the cab...
     
  2. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Man, Brendan, I think an Eden D115XL would be the perfect compliment for you. You've already got the horn in the 410 so the single 15 (ported XL) would work great. I use that combination quite often with a WT400 or WT800. Killer rig. You really have the best of both worlds with a 15 and 4 10's, IMO. Figure about 5 bills for the D115XL if you get it new.
     
  3. I agree with boogiebass that a 15 would work nicely but you might also want to consider an 8 ohm D210XLT. Both cabs hooked up to your WT300 would sound great and you'd have the added flexability of just bringing the 2x10 for smaller venues not that the 15 wouldn't work in that situation as well. Killer rig regardless!
     
  4. great suggestions, people...

    until you find the big pimp stack to keep the wailing guitarist in check...

    tell him to grow the f... up, and turn his sh.. DOWN!!

    bimp;)

    (had enuf of egomaniacal volume hog guitarists and don't put up with them anymo')
     
  5. mikemulcahy

    mikemulcahy

    Jun 13, 2000
    The Abyss
    Mo is bettah!!!! But let me also suggest you get some more wattage. My Edens are rated @ 540/8 ohms, something around 1000-1500 should do the job nicely.

    Mike
     
  6. DaveB

    DaveB

    Mar 29, 2000
    Toronto Ontario
    I like the D115XLT with a 410 XLT. As for power I think you should buy as much power as you can afford.A 1500 watt amp would give a 410/115 rig a lot of boom and TONS of valuable headroom.
     
  7. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Portland, OR
    Hmn...I guess I'll look into the 15...actually, I'm going to run a poweramp (not sure which, maybe Carvin) through the pre-amp on my WT-300, so I can have an insane amount of power, with the Eden pre-amp without insane bucks. And Money is the name of the game.

    Course, call it my egomania, but I'm still kinda slavering over a 2x15, or at least the concept of a 4x10 and a 2x15...but, hey, 1x15 might give me that extra edge.

    Any thoughts as to an 18 versus the 15?
     
  8. Go for the 2x15. The one Eden makes is actually pretty good. But the Mesa/Boogie is even better.

    The Eden 2x12 is a good cabinet too. It seems to cut through a heavy mix rather well, but it may not jive well with a 4x10.
     
  9. (amongst the gnashing screech of a 'too loud guitarist')

    a bassist's three best friends:
    1) practice
    2) personality
    3):eek: POWER!!!!! :eek:

    seek hideous amounts of all three...
     
  10. mikemulcahy

    mikemulcahy

    Jun 13, 2000
    The Abyss
    Well, look at my profile. I am most certainly gonna say "get the 18". But on the other hand they are serious power hogs. For the sake of your budget, the 15 will do. ........BUT!!!!!! If ya wanna take a walk on the power side, get about 2k watts and the 18, then it's WARP SPEED MR. ZULU!!!!!!!



    Mike
     
  11. MikeyD

    MikeyD

    Sep 9, 2000
    An Eden 2x15 would give you a fatter bottom. I have one myself (read my review in the Reviews section) and am quite happy with it. I chose Eden's over some of the others because of its good performance and relatively manageable size and weight.

    If you want loud and don't mind BIG and HEAVY - maybe check out Eden's 8x10. They claim a sensitivity of 108 dB (@ 1w, 1m). If you got yourself a Carvin DCM 2000 power amp, fed it with 1200 watts, you might see around 139 dB at 1 meter! I think then your guitarist would have some regrets. ;)

    Seriously, though, since you like the sound of the 410XLT, you should think about getting a second one. A stack of two of them would have nearly the same sensitivity as the 810 and (according to Eden) could handle 1400 watts. That would be very loud. Make sure you use hearing protection!

    - Mike
     
  12. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Portland, OR
    Wha?

    :D
     
  13. Try the Eden 2x12. grrrr now I'm thinking of getting an Eden setup insted of Mesa Boogie, DAMN GAS!!
     
  14. CrawlingEye

    CrawlingEye Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Easton, Pennsylvania
    Well... If you're sold on your current tone, just get another of the same cab.

    If you feel you could use some more bottom, an Eden 1x15 would be quite nice, I could only imagine.

    Also, I'm sure a bag end deep 1x15 would sound incredible with the Eden. I've never played the Eden with a Bag End. However, Bag End 1x15 deeps REALLY express your lows.

    Like I said, if you're sold on your current tone, stick with it, and get another Eden D410XLT. :)


    ... $.02