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Anders Behring Breivik trial

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by i_got_a_mohawk, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. Apr 16, 2012 #1
    i_got_a_mohawk

    i_got_a_mohawk

    Feb 9, 2005
    Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland
  2. Apr 16, 2012 #2
    Relic

    Relic Cow are you?

    Sep 12, 2006
    Robbinsville, NJ
    Havent read the article in the Guardian yet but I read some stuff over here this morning that stated he was going to plead "self defense"? Oh brother... the guy is nuts, absolutely nuts
     
  3. Apr 16, 2012 #3
    Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Let him testify in court, and then lock him up and throw away the key.
     
  4. Apr 16, 2012 #4
    i_got_a_mohawk

    i_got_a_mohawk

    Feb 9, 2005
    Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland
    It's a live updating report, so it'll give a timeline of what's going on right now.

    Straight off the bat he stated that he doesn't recognise the authority of the court. I'd say he's a prime example of someone needing the death penalty, something I generally don't agree with, but I simply cannot see any mitigating circumstances here (even thought it'd probably be claimed he's off his rocker).
     
  5. Apr 16, 2012 #5
    john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i find it particularly disturbing that someone like this is only facing, at most 20 or so years in prison.

    it seems to me (as an outside observer who is probably too ignorant of the reality of the situation to warrant having any opinion, let alone a strong one :D ) that a lot of european countries have very relaxed punishments for crimes committed - i wonder if some of our euro posters could chime in with their thoughts.

    and IGAM, i agree - if this guy were in the u.s. he would most definitely get the death penalty (i'm actually not a supporter of the death penalty in the U.S. - i find its uneven application across ethnic and social boundaries indicative of a fundamentally unjust, and therefore inappropriate, expression of justice, despite how it may seem warranted in many crimes).
     
  6. Apr 16, 2012 #6
    odin70

    odin70

    Dec 26, 2007
    There is no doubt in my mind that he will never be a free man again. Even though 21 years is maximum here. They can keep him behind bars for life to protect society.
     
  7. Apr 16, 2012 #7
    Relic

    Relic Cow are you?

    Sep 12, 2006
    Robbinsville, NJ
    That's what I had heard as well - the max is 20 years in Norway but before he can be released after that term there is some sort of "evaluation" which is a formality. If, at that evaluation he's declared dangerous, then back to prison he goes. He will get life.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2012 #8
    handaer

    handaer

    Jan 20, 2012
    Harstad, Troms, Norway
    "Breivik was in tears after watching his propaganda video."
    VGTV

    Think this is one of the first times he is showing emotions
     
  9. Apr 16, 2012 #9
    i_got_a_mohawk

    i_got_a_mohawk

    Feb 9, 2005
    Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland
    I couldn't comment on Norway's legal system, they all vary so much from country to country, all I know is that Norway is one of the few countries in Europe that has abolished the Life Sentence.

    In some ways I find it commendable that some countries have moved away from Life imprisonment, trying to focus on reforming instead of just seperation from society. But then, that isn't going to be the solution for everyone. It's good to see that they can still take special measures if someone is still deemed a risk, as odin70 has pointed out.
     
  10. Apr 16, 2012 #10
    odin70

    odin70

    Dec 26, 2007
    I bet the court saw me on my bike on the evidence film today. I could almost touch the car two minutes before it exploded.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2012 #11
    Relic

    Relic Cow are you?

    Sep 12, 2006
    Robbinsville, NJ
    YIKES!!!!!! Glad you're ok!!
     
  12. Apr 16, 2012 #12
    odin70

    odin70

    Dec 26, 2007
    Thanks. Im glad to be alive.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2012 #13
    iamlowsound

    iamlowsound

    Nov 30, 2005
    Listowel/KW Ontario
    Were you not in a building just a few blocks away when it went off? I seem to remember a thread you posted about that right after it happened.

    lowsound
     
  14. Apr 16, 2012 #14
    odin70

    odin70

    Dec 26, 2007
  15. Apr 16, 2012 #15
    Norwegian Bass

    Norwegian Bass

    Mar 11, 2007
    Stavanger, Norway
    Yes, it is unlikely that we're ever gonna see Mr. Breivik walking freely on the streets in Norway. We have something called "fovaring"(eng:custody) and he will probably be behind bars for the remainder of his life. Only issue that at stake in the trial really is the question of accountability.
     
  16. Apr 16, 2012 #16
    Norwegian Bass

    Norwegian Bass

    Mar 11, 2007
    Stavanger, Norway
    Oh, and good to have you still with us, Odin! :)
     
  17. Apr 16, 2012 #17
    odin70

    odin70

    Dec 26, 2007
    Either way, he will be locked up for the rest of his life.
     
  18. Apr 16, 2012 #18
    Norwegian Bass

    Norwegian Bass

    Mar 11, 2007
    Stavanger, Norway
    And under close observation.