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Another Pre CBS '63 Pbass find! Long W/ Lot of pics.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by MuthaFunk, Oct 6, 2013.


  1. It was about a year ago when I found my first vintage Pbass.

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/help-me-fender-pbass-64-pics-922622/index5.html

    It was such a great experience and I continualy marveled at it's unmistakable mojo. It's ability to motivate me to write music in a very different mind set and guide my creative side to places I hadn't thought of. I fell in love with that magic.

    Over the next few months I continued to keep an ear to the ground on any vintage Fender basses. Pre CBS or not, I was interested in anything I could find... One day, I found an ad for a '63 that didn't have any photos. I was so addicted to playing my '64 that I couldn't wait to try another pre CBS pbass to compare.

    It turned out to be in really rough shape, in pieces, and virtually unplayable. I quickly put it together as best I could and thew two strings on it and pluck pluck some tones out of it to verify the electronics were functional. I got it at a steal of a price because of the condition of it. Check it out:

    010.

    013-1.

    016-3.

    017-1.

    018-3.

    019-1.

    020-3.

    Not sure what happened to the collar around the E string tuning peg but I'll have to source a new one out....

    021-1.

    022-2.

    023-1.

    025-3.

    I was told it was refinished in red in the 70's. That's when this pickgaurd was painted gold.

    026-3.

    Looks like one of the pots had been replaced in the 70's as well:

    027-2.

    Drat! This looks like a '63 pot but the solder is covering the significant #'s. I'm going to have to resolder all these connections later anyway.

    029-3.

    Looks like 1977??

    030-2.

    033-2.

    The pickups look original!

    034-2.

    035-2.

    The original owner's son had stripped the second red finish off as it was apparently a terrible home job by his father who purchased the bass new in '63. Too bad. I would have loved to see the layers of sunburst wear through the red...

    037-2.

    He did a pretty good job of striping. This finish is near ready for refin without much prep.

    038-1.

    Apparently back in the day, pro musicians who had their instruments insured for tour use, were requested to engrave their drivers licence # into the instruments and amps that were insured. Here is Mr. Lalonde's drivers licence # here on the neck plate. It's also found on the headstock seen above and the amps he used, of which I bought one.

    039-2.

    Here's the only evidence I could find to confirm the original sunburst paint under the neck plate:

    043.

    The bit of neck wear looks good IMO.

    040-2.

    041-1.

    042.

    This strap button mark is a little bit of a curiosity to me. It appears to have left such a different colour on the back of the headstock it has me wondering if the neck was refined in some way as well but the hardware not removed. You can see the same colour difference with the neck pocket. I suppose it's likely tobacco stains but I'm not sure.

    045-1.

    There's some of that red left over from the 70's:

    049-2.

    048-1.

    047-2.

    046-1.

    Original bone nut:

    050-2.

    051-2.

    As you can see I had my work cut out for me but the potential is there. As a side note, the original owners son also gave me a great deal on his dads old backup amp.

    univox3.

    univox2.

    univox.

    060-1.

    The restoration went well!!

    065-1.

    063.

    002.

    003.

    IMG_2588.

    I'm happy to say the '63 PBass restoration went even better!!!

    The original owners son was also kind enough to include the following pictures of his dads group in the 60's. This was important for me as I now had a reference to what I' wanted the bass to look like when I'm done.

    656.

    657.

    658.

    659.

    662.

    660.

    654.

    652.

    681.

    669.

    668.

    663.

    I'll post up some more detailed pics that I took during the complete restoration but for now, here's what it looks like today!

    IMG_3847.

    IMG_3848.

    IMG_3853.

    IMG_3851.

    IMG_3854.

    IMG_3855.

    IMG_3850.

    And, with my trusty '64

    IMG_38691.

    More detailed pics to come!!
     
  2. Doesn't get much better. Great job.
     
  3. Dluxe

    Dluxe

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    Beautiful! Congratulations!! Looks terrific and I love that old Univox amp too.
     
  4. matti777

    matti777

    Dec 13, 2007
    Edmonton, Canada
    Great score. One day! Now you just need one of those suits :)
     
  5. ExaltBass

    ExaltBass Just a BassGuy! Gold Supporting Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    Twin Cities, MN
    WOW! Amazing restoration!
     
  6. Awesome story!
     
  7. Killer, well done !
     
  8. ICM

    ICM

    Apr 29, 2013
    Eastern Pennsylvania
    That is a real beauty! I love the vintage style pickup covers, they seem to have more of a "sharp" angle than the new ones.
    The refin turned out great! Good to know the basses history as well!

    Did you send the guy you bought it from some pics? If so, What did he think?

    Also note that I LOVE those rainbow suits as well. If I could convince my friends to do that when we (rarely) play out, that would be top notch.
     
  9. Mastermold

    Mastermold Supporting Member

    Great story and pretty bass too. Congrats!
     
  10. 2cooltoolz

    2cooltoolz Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2009
    Lake Conroe, TX
    Wow!! Super nice, and a job well done!! It makes me so happy to see something with this potential go to someone who will appreciate it!!
     
  11. b-bottom

    b-bottom

    Dec 18, 2006
    Knoxville TN
    what did you pay for it?
     
  12. Stone Soup

    Stone Soup

    Dec 3, 2012
    What a great bass!
     
  13. Big John66

    Big John66

    Feb 12, 2008
    This is the coolest thread I've seen on here in a long time. Great story and the pictures are fantastic, especially the old band shots. I also want to see more of the Univox resto! Cool stuff!
     
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  14. mindwell

    mindwell

    Aug 17, 2006
    Wichita, KS
    Acoustic USA endorser
    Stunning.
     
  15. Beautiful!!
    Congrats!!.
    Nice to have the history behind the bass
     
  16. xUptheIronsx

    xUptheIronsx Conform or Be Cast Out....

    Feb 6, 2010
    C-ville, Col, Ohio
    that about sums it up...

    ...and one more "Stray" who has found the right home
     
  17. Bongolation

    Bongolation

    Nov 9, 2001
    California
    No Bogus Endorsements
    I'm awed and distracted by all this fabulousness: :eek:

    652.

    Was there something about a bass? :confused:
     
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  18. Awesome!!!...that made my night.
     
  19. bigswifty1

    bigswifty1

    Dec 8, 2011
    Thanks for sharing - great story!
     
  20. Just amazing story...