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another string identification thread

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by Pacman, Dec 4, 2001.


  1. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Trying to figure these out, because they sound awesome. Silks are gold on the ends, with a long blue section in the middle. The blue section has a thin gold line spiraling around it, like a barber's pole.
     
  2. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    I'd say D'Addario Helicore Orchestras.
    They're navy blue.
    The Hybrids are Dark green, and the Pizzicatti are Marroon.

    Hope this helps!
     
  3. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    sorry, man, but it didn't. that's definately not it. the silk wraps are gold, blue with gold barber pole, and gold. on each string.
     
  4. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    That's exactly how the Helicore Orchestras are made!
    I was giving the color of the silk between and under the gold wrap, for the three Helicore types.
    Furthermore, the peg end silk is:

    Red for the G
    Gold for the D
    Dark Grey for the A
    Green for the E

    At the peg-end, there's also a ring for the tension:
    (blue ring if medium gauge)
    (gold ring if light gauge)
    (red ring if heavy)

    You can also use the string ID chart at Quinn Violins:

    http://www.quinnviolins.com/stringidfier.htm
     
  5. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    well, thank you. You are indeed correct, so I guess I like Helicores. Much appreciated.
     
  6. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    You're welcome!
    The blue Helicores (Orchestras, aka Arcos) are the warmest of the three types.
    I personally feel they lack some bottom end, but it depends on the instrument.
    They're a good string for mixed pizz and arco playing, when you want a warm tone.
    Ray Drummond uses the heavy gauge Orchestras, among other endorsers.
     
  7. Darn francois how many strings have you tried out?

    The Hybrids are Dark green. I think they might be a forest green. ;)

    Like it was said the bass makes a diference but I just removed a set of the Hybrids from my cheap asian bass. They are for acro/pizz but seemed to lack in both. I put on some Corelli 370m's and am a lot happier.
    YMMV
     
  8. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    How much strings I tried?
    Almost all of them! ;)

    About every player I know also complained about the Hybrids, saying they're not good for arco.
    They're about the loudest pizz string I tried though!
    But, for me, like all the other Helicores, they lack fundamental tone.

    Are the 370M warmer than the 370TX?
    I tried 370TX and 380TX and both were too bright for me.
     
  9. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    well, I'm totally new to upright, but I've been very happy with the sound I'm getting - big, warm and lots of fundamental. A good amount of growl, too.

    My boss, who's a much better upright player than me, was impressed as well.
     
  10. Yes they are bright, I am playing them on a cheap bass with real high action so the lack of tension helps to keep me practicing.

    They lost the brightness after a couple of days.

    I think (all hail) Bob might be using them, and Tim L doesn't like them. My mail concern was getting a string that didn't take a painfull amount of work to get onto the board. They are thinner than the Hybrids which took a little to get used to but so far I like them. With all the info posted here though I may try another brand once I get sick of them.

    Do you have a brand that you keep falling back on?
    Or are you on the never ending quest like most of us.
     
  11. Francois Blais

    Francois Blais Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Québec, Canada
    :)
    I'm in the latter category.
    However, I find myself using Pirastro strings most of the time.
    I presently have Original FlatChromes on the E and A (now that's a FAT, warm bottom end), and Flexocor 92s on the D and G. (with the rubber ring filter on the G string)

    I emailed Innovation yesterday about a defective 140B G string I bought several weeks ago, and they agreed to replace it. Fast reply!
    (After I tried the 140B, I tried their rockabilly black nylon on synthetic core model, but it was too clear and bright too)

    The G string is the only one which I'm not completely satisfied right now.
    I've tried an Oliv, but it was too clear.
    I'm looking for a warm, dark tone.
    The rubber ring damped Flexocor G is the best compromise I found so far.
    The 140B seems the only alternative for the moment.
     
  12. That sounds a little heavy on the wallet, at least it sounds like your 3/4 of the way there.