Another thread reguarding avatars

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by maxxx, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. maxxx


    Feb 9, 2005
    "Oh no! Not another thread reguarding avatars!" :)

    Hi, first post... finally, been lurking for a while now.

    Well, to get to the point... I have an avatar 212 (8ohm) and a gk1001rb-II. I'm looking to get another cabinet, and plan on sticking to avatars at the time being. So here is my dilemma: which avatar cab should I get?
    I was thinking of a 410 neo for aesthetic/bowel-disturbing reasons, however thats more pricey (still in price range, but if I can save money thats always a plus)and a little more to fit into a van. It would also be nice to choose only one cab (212 or 410) depending on size of venue/show. Then I could always get the 210 which would be a lighter alternative for the exchange of less costly, easier to transport in the van, but not as intimidating as a full 212 and 410, and I'm unsure if its nearly as powerful.

    Any other avatar-suggestions (another 212, 115, etc) would be appreciated, but please state your reason for recommending the specific cab.

    Played through a member on this forums ampeg 610 the other night, turned up 1/4 on the master volume on my head and it was real loud. I was kind of looking for an avatar cabinet combination with the power-equivalence to that, so I can always piss off guitarists if necessary. :D
    We do play LOUD.

    (proof I actually own what I say I do, and yeah... I like it :p. Just need MORE!!!)
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  2. remo


    Jan 15, 2005
    depends on the sound your after...

    - add a 115 for bowel loosening depth and 70's thump
    - add a 410 for "punch in the face" presence and mid hit
  3. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Well my regular rig is an Avatar B-212 (like yours), along with an Avatar B-210, PLX/Demeter/Bmax.

    I recently got a YBA-200, which seems to push too much low end through these two Avatars. So I got an Avatar 410 NEO (4 ohm) for the Traynor in an effort to pull more mids from it. The 410 NEO accomplished this BUT....the NEO cab seems very hungry, to the point where the 200 watt Traynor is struggling to get a decent volume level. No idea what the sensitivity specs are for the NEO, but it looks like I won't be able to run just the one cab as planned. I'm getting pretty good tone, tho.
  4. TheChariot


    Jul 6, 2004
    Boston, MA
    I would go with either a 210 or your choice, or even possibly an SB112. If you really dont think you need the extra punch of 10's, then maybe another 12 is right for you.

    In the end, you should definately get a small cab, just in case your in a situation where you need to haul your own gear without help, or practice somewhere else. It's just handy to have.
  5. The B212 and B115 combination has great lows, can get insanely loud, and has surprising clarity. The high mids are lacking. Good for old school with a little modern edge.

    I found the high mids lacking for my taste so I added 2 Eminence alpha 6 speakers to my 2x12 and took the tweeter out. If I had to do it again I would replace the 1x15 with a 2x10. I do really like my rig though.
  6. maxxx


    Feb 9, 2005
    How is that setup working out? Are the 212 and 210 a good combo?

    I'm leaning towards a smaller cab right now just for transportation purposes, but if it makes any difference, we play in dropped tuning and its a heavier hardcore genre I guess.

  7. TheChariot


    Jul 6, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Yeah I've done Hardcore, and probably will again once I move to Boston. I'd definately go with an SB112 or B210. A 15 probably wouldnt work for you as well unless you upped the Mids in your EQ section..... cuz a lot of times you'll sorta get fudged out in the low end in hardcore, which is why I prefer to aim for the mids and low-mids. Although your preference could be different.

    What you really have to ask yourself is "What do I want to enhance right now?".... and the answer is either your low end thump, your mid-range punch, or nothing at all.... and sorta base your decision on this. IMO, adding punch wouldnt hurt, and that's what 10's would give you.
  8. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Ya they seem to work well together.
  9. Jazzin'

    Jazzin' ...Bluesin' and Funkin'

    I have the B210neo B212 combo as well. But I didn't get to try them both together yet. I'm out of town untill the end of August. I have tried both cabs seperately though. They are both very strong with the lows, but the 210neo has cleaerer highs and mids while the 212 is better at rumbling the ground.
  10. Mr_McBride


    Oct 9, 2003
    Acworth, Ga
    It's really a personal preference, but if I had to suggest one, I'd say the 2x10 neo would be the best compliment. This would give you stronger mid's/high's....if that is what you are looking for...