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Antithesis of Fender Jazz

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by SIFJiggy, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. SIFJiggy


    Jan 22, 2011
    Hey TBers - this is a wildly open-ended and subjective question that might aggravate some...

    Right now I'm playing a 2012 Hand Stained Jazz (mahogany w/ maple neck) and I friggin love it... BUT

    I have chronic GAS syndrome and really want to find something that sounds totally different. Something with a little less "smoothness"? I guess... I was thinking something along the lines of one of the new Gibson EB basses - My budget is more like half that so I'm debating something like a Blacktop P-Bass or Yamaha BB424.

    Just something that will give a different sound - maybe hotter and grittier.

    Let me also put the caveat in here that "go play a bunch and see what you like" is a crap-answer. I really don't have the time and if you've noticed, brick and mortar stores have the diverse selection of a mid 1940s German army...
    so that's why I ask my TB homies.

    Thanks in advance.
  2. pacojas

    pacojas "FYYA BUN"

    Oct 11, 2009
    raise the pups and lower the strings!;)
  3. Buskman


    Apr 13, 2007
    Jersey Shore, USA
    Let's see: something with a little less smoothness/grittier tone & half the price of the new Gibson EB series...

    Seems to me that you just described a MIM build (or similar) Precision. Squier CV, if you want to save a little extra coin.

    I think we're done here. ;)
  4. unclejane

    unclejane Guest

    Jul 23, 2008
    Well, I can always cite the two basses I play nowadays, since precisely because they _don't_ sound like a jazz bass is why I have em :)

    They're my G&L L2K and Carvin Bunny Brunel 4 string FL's. Probably anything with a big musicman style humbucker at the bridge will sound quite different.

    The L2K is an oddity because it actually is easy to get a jazz bass tone out of it, at a rate of approx. 80%. Soloing the bridge PU in parallel mode gives a good approximation of the jazz nasally burp. Any other setting, though, and it sounds very different, with a much hotter, woolier tone.

    The Bunny I can't get to resemble a jazz bass at all no matter what I do, for which I'm truly grateful.

    The MM Sterling or Stingray is another couple basses I've played that give a very different sound than a jazz bass. So I'd check those out also.

  5. ggvicviper

    ggvicviper Yamaha & Grosbeak. I’m Marc!

    Jul 16, 2011
    East Meadow, NY, USA
    +1 on the MIM Precision for grit. The MIM I own is very treble-heavy and raw sounding, as opposed to my MIA which is pretty smooth and fat. MIA also has a good share of treble, but not as much as the MIM.
  6. SIFJiggy


    Jan 22, 2011
    I'm hearing a lot of P-love. But I was thinking Blacktop because of humbuckers --- or then what about the Blacktop jazz since these split coils are a real difference maker... I am a big fan of the J-neck too - so that might work.
  7. sven kalmar

    sven kalmar

    Apr 29, 2009
    epiphone? thunderbird? EB? i dont know these instrumenst but they might be quite cool..
  8. jobo4


    Apr 19, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Is a Sterling BY MM Ray34 in your price range? Might be a nice departure.
  9. willbassyeah


    Oct 9, 2011
    I think hollowbody basses are also a great choice for you. Jack casside epiphone seems to be what you looking for I think. And don't forget use either flat or an old roundwound string on it.
  10. ggvicviper

    ggvicviper Yamaha & Grosbeak. I’m Marc!

    Jul 16, 2011
    East Meadow, NY, USA
    Blacktop J should be another good choice. Very different sound from a normal J. The neck pickup is closer to the neck, and sounds very grindy in many demos I've heard. Like a cross between a P and a Rick.
  11. jamminology101


    Aug 22, 2012
    Indianapolis In
    Endorsing Artist: Glockenklang
    I played that blacktop....its EXACTLY what u r looking for and pretty cheap too...
  12. SIFJiggy


    Jan 22, 2011
    P or J?
  13. Buskman


    Apr 13, 2007
    Jersey Shore, USA
    I'd go J... Same Jazz feel (body, neck) that you're used to, with two grittier P pickups in a J-type configuration.
  14. Wallace320

    Wallace320 Commercial User

    Mar 19, 2012
    Milan, Italy
    Fender MIM BlackTop Jazz

    dual split coil pickups on a higloss finished Jazz bass neck and alder body, with himass bridge already onboard

    What d'ya need more?

  15. SIFJiggy


    Jan 22, 2011
    Thanks for the input guys. Blacktoppie looks like a winner atm
  16. ggvicviper

    ggvicviper Yamaha & Grosbeak. I’m Marc!

    Jul 16, 2011
    East Meadow, NY, USA
    This should only further solidify that the Blacktop J is what you're looking for.

  17. Your J is smooth? I find a J is usually punch with a lot of treble.

    I'd go for something with growl, like a P or Spector. ^_^
  18. I always thought of p's as the polar opposite because I can actually cut through a dense mix with them, whereas I'm off to an EQ noodle-fest when it comes to getting jazz's to work for me.
  19. Also, I don't subscribe to the whole "I can get my J to sound like a P with the neck pickup" thing. To my ears, they sound vastly different. To me, P's have a throaty bark with the tone up, while J's have sizzling snap. With tone rolled off, P's "fart" and J's "burp". Sorry for the gross analogy....
  20. SIFJiggy


    Jan 22, 2011
    Really depends on what song... Can't get no better while jamming some bluesy stuff at an open mic or something. But then we turn around and do a medley that goes from 'Bringing Sexy Back' to 'Killing in the Name' --- need some more punch 'n growl
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