Anybody ever heard of these?

Almost 1000 Euros plus shipping from Germany for a single 15 cab. Plus another 180 if you want Tolex instead of textured paint. Plus another 100 for a cover. I don't think we'll be hearing too much from them, but I remember that one time when I was wrong before....

 

That website gives me zero reason to consider them for a millisecond.

 

Look like same ol ugly duratex metal grill
Carvin copy fuDfuLLs

 

Man, I am amazed how folk can dismiss kit they haven't even heard... They look nicely presented, then most things do.

The trouble I have with almost all advertising material for bass gear is that it's so meaningless to me... what is 'punch' or 'heft' or 'clear'. I haven't really much idea how to describe the sound I like. But even recordings of the speakers in use wouldn't be much good to me, because all I'm really hearing is the recording and the reproduction at my end.

 

Looks interesting. The 10” cab also has a 6” and a *two* tweeters. I have no idea how that would sound but at least it’s different.

 

Well we have the observation in the distortion/tweeters thread that not every tweeter in bass cabs has sufficient power handling to cope with very HF rich signals. Two tweeters with sensitivity tuned appropriately would seem to be one option to provide extra power handling.

 

Silk dome tweeters like that are typically hi-fi pieces with pretty low sensitivity and power handling. Looks kinda like an AccuGroove influenced design, more or less. Priced similarly too. Might be great for the type of things I care about, especially upright. Greatly prefer that look to the same old vintage thing, personally.

 

One thing puzzles me. I've never seen rear shelf ports before, Interesting, but why have those cool recessed jack plates when you wouldn't want them flush with a wall anyway?

BTW, it doesn't look like they're designed for Harmonically rich signals - Which I couldn't care less one way or the other about. I'm weird - I use no distortion and can't imagine ever wanting to.

 

Rollover protection, maybe?

 

That was back in the summer of ‘82 iirc

 

Hi joel406

Nope! They are only available since 25/5/19

But I think, it certainly would be to demo a Ritter with them!



may the bass be with you

Wise(b)ass

 

Many of the things made in Germany are very good.
These may be too...and looks aren't everything.
I just think that the website doesn't give enough info(yet?).

 

The homepage is made bad.

 

It would be enlightening to know how many speaker systems have been manufactured and delivered to end users. Seems to be a lot of 'coming soon' on their site.

And yes, I think that having rear-mounted shelf ports might be unique to this manufacturer. I always felt like the biggest advantage to having the ducted port use one wall of the enclosure is that it made better use of precious baffle board area...it never occurred to me to put one on the back.

 

I don't know anything about these cabs, but if bad design/cheap websites would stop me from buying gear I would be so much richer than I am right now

 

Smart move on that company's part. Hughes & Kettner getting out of bass amplification for almost a decade opened up a gap in quality bass cabs that not only this company is attempting to fill but others hopefully will follow suit.

 

It wasn't my intent to dis' the product itself...I just think they don't look like anything particularly special. The "12er" (great name) is more than $1300 US before you shell out $100 for the cover...and before it transits from Germany to wherever. I don't see that having much of an impact on the US market unless they are somehow more miraculous than they appear to be. Obviously they'll be more competitive in the EU...as for the UK, who the [email protected]#$ knows?

The cabinetry appears to be nice enough, but also nothing special...for the money, I would want a $.50 piece of foam behind the perforated steel grill, but that's a matter of personal taste.

Oh...and that picture makes me want to say "Nihilists!"

 

Proof of the pudding is in the product. The market will sort out the winners from the also rans.

I wish them well. Having one more available choice to consider is never a bad thing.

 

From a positive standpoint, there are very few bad German products. On the other hand, there are German products that I don't care for the sound of and German products that are so expensive that their apparent value is near zero.

So - I'd give these guys a chance to prove their worth.