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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by craigb, Oct 11, 2000.


  1. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    Here's the situation: practice at lunch via my crummy headphone amp with my G&L L2000 (neck pup, passive, series) and love the tone (as usual). After work head to practice. Before everyone else starts up the tone is great. Everyone else (guitarist w/Les Paul and Marshall half-stack, drummer on electronic drums and singer via PA) arrives and the tone is not cutting it in that situation (although it has in the past with the full band which includes another guitarist with half-stack). Pop the L2000 over to active to get more bite and adjust vol/treb/bass to my liking. Love the tone. After a few songs I'm having trouble hearing myself other than as a dull boom. Move to both pickups in parallel and adjust vol/treb/bass. Tone is good enough (don't love it anymore). Near the end of practice it's either booming or not audible again.

    We weren't way loud (there are times I leave the room because it's too loud) but the drummer seems to always creep up in volume and the guitar player, well, you've all heard about guitar players. But since it was only one guitarist this week it wasn't as bad.

    So I think it was a combination of "ear fatigue" from the volume and maybe a cold coming on throwing my ear off. But it's a pain to go from "love the tone" to having to adjust it just because I can't hear it anymore when at other times when the volume stays down I don't have to touch a thing for the whole practice and love the tone at the end as much as at the beginning. Oh well, got to go back to being the volume nazi, I guess. Maybe I need a bigger amp, too. My 135W 1x12 w/tweeter is loud enough but greater overhead may make things better.

    Anyone else run into the same thing?
     
  2. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    sorry about the topic - I didn't notice the quotes in the title truncated what I had put there.
     
  3. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I 've had this situation quite often, but it can be various things. One of the most common, is that standing in front of a speaker, which is placed on the floor means that you lose all the treble-end or any definition. Whereas pointing the speaker(s) to you ear by tilting it backwards can make a huge difference to being able to hear without increasing volume. I bought a specialist stand for this purpose - if you just raise it up on crates or something it can mean that you also lose the bottom end because there is no connection to the floor.

    The other thing to try is to stand as far away from your speaker(s) as possible - I've done this at gigs where the room has had bad acoustics and been amazed at the difference.

    At 130 watts you are probably right about more headroom beiung a good thing, but it should be sufficient for rehearsals, as long as everybody play for eveybody else. You might want to get someone to try to set the balance independently and agree not to turn up.
     
  4. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    Hey Bruce,

    Thanks for the ideas. My combo does have "kickback" capability so I'll have to try that. I used to have it leaned back but everyone else said they could hear me better when it was standing upright.

    I do stand as far away as possible (which isn't that far). We practice in the drummer's music room which is really just a bedroom (with no furniture) that we get to leave our stuff set up in. I'd estimate I'm about 8 or 9 feet from my amp.

    My 130W amp is loud enough for rehearsals - I only have it about a quarter of the way up. I've used it for house parties without any problems either (and it sounded pretty good when our guitarist's son's band used our gear to play a few songs one time).
     
  5. i think it might be a cold coming on. often when i have a cold, i have to kick the volume in my amp way up, about 3 notches up (on a 50w amp) regularly, at home, i practice with it at 3 but when i'm sick, it normaly goes up to 6.