Bass is said to be part of the rythm section, but sometimes I feel that some drummers listen to nothing else but themselves, and that tempo isn't even a discussion. So as a practice exercice I was thinking to be the one with the click, which would force the drummer to listen to the bass. I did that in the past when some drummers refused to do some group practice with a click. And what I saw was a bit expected, they just can't follow the bass, probably because they don't really listen to it. So far when I tried with drummers it was mostly a catastrophy. But I take it also as something that I am maybe doing wrong in my playing, like not beeing articulate or percusive enough. Drummers practice to backtracks too, so do they do it on tracks that have no drums but still a click, or no click at all ?