Anyone have any experience with Avatar?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Obsolex, Apr 6, 2003.

  1. Obsolex

    Obsolex Guest

    Nov 17, 2002
    Someone suggested some Avatar amps to me ( but has anyone here tried them? I looked at the prices and dayamn. But it said this-- It has 350 watts RMS each speaker. The four 10's (4x10) combined are rated at 1400 WATTS RMS. So does the cab get 350 RMS or 1400 RMS?Also, I didn't see any big bands or artists that use them, anyway, its your guys's word, thanks, _-soto-_
  2. bentem


    Oct 18, 2002
    Rockville, MD
    You will get 1400 watts RMs, because you are running through all four speakers at the same time but by themself, each is rated at 350watts.

    I dont think any pros use them, although they are a great deal, they cant compare to top of the line ampeg, mesa, swr, etc cabs. But a lot of people here at TB, includng myself, use them.
  3. bentem


    Oct 18, 2002
    Rockville, MD
    also try doing a search, theres tons of information on them.
  4. Obsolex

    Obsolex Guest

    Nov 17, 2002
    dude thats insane! are you sure!? its only 339 and like not even 400 with shipping! hey, and is the official avatar website? and can i CALL my order in!? thanks, i cant believe 1400 watts for only 340!! _-soto-_
  5. Rod B.

    Rod B.

    Jun 11, 2002
    Yes, he's correct.

    Part of the reason for the low cost: Direct selling, screws instead of T-bolts & nuts to speaker mount, no speakon connection.
  6. Well, just to clarify, they take whatever power you put in them; It won't all of a sudden make your head put out 1400 watts. I have a B210 and love it. I think avatar would be a great call.
  7. As the sun sets

    As the sun sets Guest

    Dec 10, 2002
    N. Easton, MA
    Avatar cabs are great cabs for a bassist with a budget. I know on the Harmony-central bass forum that I'm on quite a bit there are quite a few people that use them and love them. I guess the tweeters on them kind of suck, so if you get a cab with a tweeter on it... turn it all the way down. The reason big-name people don't use them is because they're not buying their own cabinets so they can afford much better. They can handle quite a bit, but they're not the best cab out there obviously. They are nice for the price, though. I'd recommend one if you're on some type of budget.
  8. bentem


    Oct 18, 2002
    Rockville, MD
  9. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Hey what way do the "tweeters kind of suck"? Dave uses the same Foster/Fostex tweeter that SWR and others use in their cabinets...basically the industry standard of bass cabinet tweeters. It's not like he's using piezo tweeters or anything...

    Anyway, Obsolex, you can call Dave at Avatar to order your cabinet. His number is (208) 762-5251. Keep in mind that he's in Idaho (Mountain Time Zone). He usually answers the phone himself and if you have to leave a message, he'll be back to you before you know it. Also, if he has the B410 you want in stock, it will be ready to ship within minutes of your order...quite incredible service.

    You can choose between 4 and 8 ohm impedances...I'd recommend that you go with 8 ohms because it offers you more flexibility in the future as far as adding an additional 4x10 or a 1x15.
  10. cjgallen


    Oct 19, 2001
    The price to power ratio is what made me buy my Avatars, and I couldn't be happier.
  11. As the sun sets

    As the sun sets Guest

    Dec 10, 2002
    N. Easton, MA
    Hey Billy,
    I can't say that I've played through one myself and said they suck, I am just passing on what I have heard from some people. I have heard that it can get real annoying/buzzy when it gets louder. I will have to ask around to get more information about the experience these people have had with the tweeters.

    - Alex
  12. Schwinn


    Dec 4, 2002
    Sarasota, FL
    The horn tweeter is really loud in these cabs. But I've had the same experience with other cabs too, so it's not just the avatar. Like Billy said, they probably all use the same horns.

    I tried playing with the tweeter on, but the static was driving me crazy so I turned it back down.
  13. ihixulu

    ihixulu Supporting Member

    Mar 31, 2000
    getting warmer
    The horns may be the same but the crossover network is where the BIG sonic difference, and the value of expertise, is. I personally found the horn on the Avatar to be harsh in comparison to my Aggie and a borrowed SWR cab.

    Just becasue I stick Goodyear tires on my Escort, doesn't mean it will handle like a Mustang with the same tires.

    (edited to reduce inflammatory content)
  14. Captain Awesome

    Captain Awesome

    Apr 2, 2001
    On the subject of the tweeter/crossover, I whether it sounds "good" or not also depends quite a bit on the bass, pickups, and amp you are using. I usually have the horn on all the way on my Avatar 2x10, it brings out the high-mid detail in my Washburn w/Barts without sounding harsh or grating, and I don't have any problem with buzz/hiss.
  15. Obsolex

    Obsolex Guest

    Nov 17, 2002
    thanks guys, _-soto-_
  16. Avatar is a solid cab that uses good components. It's not cutting edge technology like EA for Bergi or whatever hi-fi cab you may like. But for under $400 bucks you can get a solid 4x10 cab that will hang with the best of them. jmho
  17. Remember, oh great players of the bass who use cabinets with tweeters (regardless if it's an Avatar or Bergantino.....)

    You can turn the tweeter down or off, if you do not like the extended highs in your sound.

  18. I ran music throught my B210, and found that for as near enough a 'flat' response as you could get (compared to my HiFi) , the tweeter was turned only 30% up.
    Any more is going to give a lot of bite and be overaggressive. Its a loud tweeter!. So be conservative with it and it should be a problem
  19. TxBass


    Jul 3, 2002
    Frisco, Texas
    Magman--I find about the same on my 4x10...I used to run it completely off, but lately I've used it more and more with good results.
  20. I plan on using an Ampeg B2r head through an Avatar 2x12, granted I currently own neither of those, but does anyone know how ampeg heads, etc. sound on Avatar cabs?