Some of the bass tones on a lot of stuff is really good, and I doubt all of it is synths. One that comes to mind is "I ain't mad at cha". Awesome growly, thick tone. It could be synth, but it just doesn't quite seem like it. That and the bass tone on a lot of songs seems very similar, and played in a manner that would make me think it is an actual bass. -Can we not turn this into a "hip-hop sucks, no it doesn't" thread? It is clear hip-hop is now a part of the musical landscape, and not going anywhere. There are some excellent artists in the mess of commercialized crap. Even if Tupac is a little older.