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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Ari Schor, Nov 18, 2001.
just be aware that the 360 is a pre-amp. it was meant to be paired with the acoustic 301 cabinet which had a power amp built in. you can use the 360 with a power amp, but that would be very heavy.
you beat me to it...i forgot the slight detail...
I had one of these, with the 301. Thanks for the nostalgia trip! WAY cool for its time, but at a mere (!) 200 watts, technology has left it in the dust.
I may be wrong, but I think the 301 was only a cab, and was usually paired with an Acoustic 370 head. The powered bottom of the Acoustic 360 was a different model , and I can't for the life of me remember it. And I owned one!
I will definitely admit to being unsure of the model of the 360's powered bottom, and it is entirely possible that it did NOT have its own model number -- it may be that the 360 consisted of both a head and a bottom.
The powered bottom is a 361.
There was the 360/361 and the 370/301.
See -- I KNEW somebody would know.
oops! i stand corrected!
have you guys seen this? the 360 preamp in a smaller pedal box:
This was a very efficient system. Cranked about 2/3 I drowned out two Marshall stacks another bassist and two drummers. You couldn't often hear it on stage but an eighth of a mile away....unbelievable. I use contemporary SWR but the 360 performed like more then a mere 200 watts. My friends 370 blew away my Marshall Major through an SVT cabinet in terms of pure volume. Well, we live now anyway.
yes, both the 360/361 and 370/301 are extremely loud amps. i've got the 370/301 and have no problem keeping up with a marshal stack. the folded horn design of the 301 and 361 cabinets acts like a megaphone, amplifying the 200 or so watts these amps put out @ 4 ohms to the extreme. with the 370 you can run it down to 2 ohms for roughly 370 watts of power. i may be wrong, but didn't the 360 have four speaker outputs?!?! anyways, the 301 cabinet (1x18) is the heaviest cabinet i've ever seen. easily as heavy as an 8x10, if not more. i can only image what the 361 would be like with the power amp inside! in my opinion, these amps have tone and power rivaling that of a many modern systems. size and weight, however, are the two limiting factors.
Yes, the 360 pre-amp head had four output jacks. If you look at certain old photos of John Paul Jones, I think he used to run two bottoms off his head. The nice thing about the 361 bottom was that it had heavy-duty handles and wheels on it. It was fairly easy to move about. I even used to load it in the back of my old Opel station wagon with no trouble. I may check out that box version of the pre-amp. Sounds like a very crude sort of Pod.
you had an opel station wagon?!?! that's so cool! a friend of mine had an opel manta ray, beautiful 70's green.
Haha, that's funny. I too picked up a 360 head for exactly $25. I found it sitting in some mom-and-pop music store. They didn't know what it was................
Yes, the 360 will is a fully functional pre-amp. When my amp in my 361 powered cab failed, I used a crown DC-300A to power the cab. The pre-amp worked great with the different amp. These pre-amps are great for recording direct as well. (though, I hate going direct)
One thing does cross my mind though; Perhaps the input sensitivity of the original 361 amplifer was higher than a normal amplifier. When I run the 360 head into other power amps, it seems like I have to crank the volume more to get the same volume as I would with the original amp. Who knows?
the 360 head a tone beast. Just a word of caution to new users. The "bass" knob is odd. It seems to work best to start with the bass knob in the "9-o-clock" or "10-o-clock" position. Then adjust your tone from there. Just my advice anyhow....
R&R - thanks for the input, man! Yeah, I was thinking that there might exist some issues with respect to the input/output sensitivity.
Last week I aquired an A/B/Y pedal and hooked up my
370/301 and my ''73 SVT Head & Cab aand ran ran them
together to see what kind of roar I could create (i found out-
A bowel-movement-inducing roar!)- The bigger surprise to both me and my bandmates was how similar the sound of each rig was when I'd kick the switch back and forth from A to B- We were in a small basement, but were still scratching our heads as these on paper are 2 totally different beasts-
Perhaps it is all in the fingers???