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Anyone use two brands of cabs simultaneously in one rig?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mrpackerguy, Dec 9, 2005.


  1. mrpackerguy

    mrpackerguy Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Madison, Wisconsin
    Just wondering. I run two 4 Ohm Acme 2x10s, but often wondered if it's taboo to mix and match. For instance, what if I were to run one Acme and one 12x12 or one 12x10 from another cab maker? Reason I would consider this is to add a bit of depth and volume.
     
  2. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    No problem at all as long as your ohm load works out correctly.
    I used to use a Musicman HD212 and an Eden 210XLT together.
     
  3. I use a homemade 4x8 and an Avatar B115 together. I just balance the levels with my stereo poweramp.

    As you may very well know most cabs are on average 6db @1w/1m louder than the Acme 2x10 so you will need to balance the levels in a similar fashion to be effective. Other than that why the heck not? :D
     
  4. Horny Toad

    Horny Toad Guest

    Mar 4, 2005
    NJ
    I use Aguilar's and Avatar's in the same rig and it works fine.

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  5. DEVILMAN

    DEVILMAN

    Nov 24, 2001
    New York,NY
    ...ALL the time...

    ~S~
     
  6. Fealach

    Fealach Guest

    Apr 23, 2003
    Gone to a better place
    The ONLY time I ever used all the same brand cabs in 20 years was when I had my Bergantino stack. And even then I ended up adding another cab of a different brand eventually.
     
  7. Two EA's stacked facing forward for my own stage sound/monitoring/FOH blend with PA + my Avatar B210 NEO faced sideways toward the drummer for his (and the lead guitars) bass stage monitor.

    Works out superbly.

    Jay
     
  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    The only time you have to have the same cabinets in a rig is when you use an SVT rig. And it's not because it won't hook up, but because it's such a waste not to use the whole rig. Otherwise mix and match.

    BTW, Horny Toad, I'd sure hate to stand next to you onstage!
     
  9. I used to run a bag end 1x18" with a hartke 4x10 on top, until I found a pair of EA 2x10's stacked did a better job, cleaner, flatter, and a better low B....

    Generally its probably a great idea though. Each cab can make up for the shortcomings of the other. One better at deep lows, the other better for mids/highs. You could possibly bi-amp, but I prefer to just run both full range as long as there's substantial overlap in their freq responses, and one isn't in danger of being blown from getting too much power.

    Just try to reasonably match the sensitivity and you can run them together (bridged stereo for monster power levels). If the sensitivies are way different, you may have to run them into seperate channels of the power amp and adjust volume to balance the cabs. Reasonably similar power capacity is a good idea too, taking care to take their impedance into account to figure how power will split between the cabs. A 800 w 4 ohm cab would go good with a 400w 8 ohm cab together, since the 4 ohm cab will get twice the power. If the impedances match, the power capacity should be in the same ballpark too, more for convenience. You have to turn down when one speaker starts farting, so might as well have them both farting at about the same point.

    Randy
     
  10. murphy

    murphy

    May 5, 2004
    Toronto, Canada
    I find my Eden 410XLT with one EA CXL12E sitting on top makes a killer combo....punchy crispy and thick! cuts like a knife
     
  11. wow thats a rig

    lowsound
     
  12. chaosMK

    chaosMK

    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    Ive used-

    SWR WM 1x15 + Mesa Diesel 1x15
    SWR WM 1x15 + Avatar 2x10pro
    Mesa Powerhouse 4x10 + SWR Goliath III 4x10
    Mesa Powerhouse 4x10 + Avatar 2x10pro

    All with good results. Out of the combinations I can make with those 5 cabs, the ones listed had the best results.
     
  13. IvanMike

    IvanMike Player Characters fear me... Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    Middletown CT, USA
    yup, no problem

    often i find that two diffenert cabs (from the same or different manufacturers) compliment each other very nicely.

    there are no rules as long as you take the minimum impedance your amp can handle into account.
     
  14. jmain

    jmain Oo, Uhn't uh, Yes! Supporting Member

    Apr 23, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    I just added a GS112 to my EA setup to fatten it up. The sensitivities are a little off, but not real noticeable, and I'm digging it. Good mix and match for different apps.
     
  15. sethlow3

    sethlow3 Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Nashville, Tennessee
    I use a yorkville 210 (bright) and a Trace 410 (vintage warm mids) with a Genz Benz GBE600 and the tonal mix is amazing!
     
  16. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Terrific Twister

    Apr 12, 2001
    Lacey, WA
    Not me. I'm borderline obsessive/compulsive about stuff like that. All the same, or just one for me. I have a few different brands of cabs, but I never use two different brands at a gig.

    -Mike
     
  17. gfab333

    gfab333

    Mar 22, 2000
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    In the past, I've used an Eden 2-10XLT with a EA CXL 1-12L with a GK 1001rb II. sounded great. a few tips on this matter...

    Naturally, you should use proper impedance matching. I'd check the specs on frequency response and speaker sensitivity for each cab - this in itself does not guaranty compatibility, but it's a step in the right direction. Finally, if at all possible, try the combination out first before buying. I didn't do all of the above, but lucked out with the combination anyway.
     
  18. Keeaumoku

    Keeaumoku

    Dec 29, 2004
    Whenever I get the chance, I pair-up my Bergantion NV215 with my Eden D410XLT, both 4 Ohm cabs. I'll either use my Aguilar DB750, or my Marshall VBA400... depends on what mood I'm in for the gig.

    However... I plan on purchasing a Bergie NV425... I wanna be the first on my block with 3 x 15"s and 3 x 10"s... oh yeah- and let's not forget that cute little 6-incher,too! :bassist:
     
  19. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    hehe,

    moi aussi. i just like the look of a well bred homogenized backline.

    hey packer guy,

    but if its depth and volume, i thnk you need to work w/ your EQ. the Acmes are GREAT at handling that, and will give you whatever sound you want. what's your preamp / power amp / head setup?
     
  20. jmain

    jmain Oo, Uhn't uh, Yes! Supporting Member

    Apr 23, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    My problem is I'm running discontinued EA VL cabs. They're not very efficient and tough to find. (Looking for another 110) The new EA cabs are much more sensitive, so not a good choice although same brand. I've been messing around with my cab combinations today to get a good idea how the EA cabs match with the GS112.

    Although the Aggie is rated as more sensitive (103db), the difference isn't as apparent as I thought it would be. (Especially with the 208 - rated at 99db) Sounds pretty good stacked up. The EA cabs are "tighter" and the Aggie has more depth and "spread". Although, I prolly won't use them together unless I have to, I'll keep the GS112 and may get another to have a different rig depending on the occasion. Definitely a nice "modern classic" tone; dropping some old school funk.