Anything better than trace eillot?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by lookjojoisplaid, Nov 25, 2005.

  1. lookjojoisplaid


    Oct 17, 2005
    San Diego
    Im borrowing a trace elliot GP12 SMX 4X10" combo from my guitar player in my band. And i feel bad about using it so im savin up for a new rig but honestly i know traces kick the crap outta every amp at any guitar center except for maybe the Ampeg CL. But the ampeg CL has like nothing on it. So what else is better? I have been mainly looking into the fender Bassman 300 because it seems to be about the same features as my trace excpet dual channels and power tubes. Anyone else wanna gimmie some advice??
  2. If you like lots of knobs check out the Eden WT800. If you have more money than you know what to do with how about an Aguilar DB750?

    Great cabs are being put out by the likes of Accugroove, EA, Schroeder, Bergantino, the list goes on and on.

    Honestly no one can tell you what the best is. There is tons of great gear out there these days and you won't find most of it at Guitar Center. Let us know what you play, what kind of tone you like, how loud you need to be and whatever other info you can think of and I bet you'll get a lot of different recommendations.

    BTW Trace is COOL! :D
  3. chaosMK


    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    Dont ask questions, just go Mesa.
  4. lookjojoisplaid


    Oct 17, 2005
    San Diego
    im not big on knobs to be honest. All i use on my trace is all valve and whatever that pre-shape button does. Ill tell you the first time i played this amp it was just a flat eq and it sounded like love. Then i hit that pre-shape button and it sounded like hot sex
  5. there is LOTS better than trace in my oppinion...

    but different people like different sounds.
  6. Planet Boulder

    Planet Boulder Hey, this is a private Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2001
    6,482 feet above sea level
    I once had impure thoughts. Oh, and I pluck my ear hair.
    Okay, take it from someone who has owned a pretty sizeable number of Trace amps/pres/power amps:

    You need to shop around to find out what it is about Trace that you like so much and to find out what else might be out there.

    What are you looking for in terms of tonal qualities? Do you like a heavily-colored tone or a more transparent one? Do you like a more "vintage", tube-like tone or a more modern tone? Do you like a versatile amp - one which gives you plenty of options, depending upon what you are playing?

    I like/love my Trace amps, but they aren't suited for every style I play. There are brands that I prefer over my Traces for versatility. My GK comes to mind, for example.

    Trace has a great tone, and it is one that can really snag you, but it is what it is - a Trace tone. Make sure you put your money into something that is the result of extensive research.
  7. The 0x

    The 0x

    Aug 24, 2003
    Timonium, MD
    The Fender 300 is a kickass amp, but doesn't sound much like a Trace (i'm sure you could make it sound similar to one, though).

    The closest thing to trace tonewise is Ashdown. Try them out. They don't make any all tube models though.

    Power tubes are the shiznit.
  8. lookjojoisplaid


    Oct 17, 2005
    San Diego
    I play all kinds of styles to be honest i have been in punk band right now i am in a very mars volta expirementalish band and loving it. I like a very clean tone uo and down the neck with lots of warmth and color to it. But its defintly gonna need to have a big sound too. I also have an ampeg SVT 350 through an ampeg 4X10" but it is missing allot of the warmth and color to it.
  9. Kelly Lee

    Kelly Lee Yeah, I'm a guy! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Marana, AZ, USA
    The Trace Elliot "tone" with Preshape #1 works really well for punk as I have mine set the same way. :D

    If you really dig the Trace tone, save up and buy your own! There are plenty of good Trace heads that come up on Ebay (and other places) everday. I know this because I check everyday! :p :help:

    Also, the new Trace Elliot line should be out around the first of December. Check out the new line here:The "New" Post-Gibson Trace Elliot

    To answer that question, no! (IMO :D )
  10. lookjojoisplaid


    Oct 17, 2005
    San Diego
    doesnt sound very punk to me and im defintly not going for that punk tone. If i wanted that punk tone i would just use my ampeg and cut the mid range and crank the bass and trebbile. Im going for i guess you would call it the more classic bass tone.
  11. Kelly Lee

    Kelly Lee Yeah, I'm a guy! Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Marana, AZ, USA
    Maybe the difference is that I play with a pick. :meh: Anyways, I personally consider the "tone" a classic bass tone. A lot of influential bassist used Trace over the years so I would definately call it classic. It's just not an 70's SVT tone!

    Just so you know, you are already cutting your mids when you use the Preshape #1.
  12. jondog


    Mar 14, 2002
    NYC metro area
    I agree! Pre-shape 1 is an awesome bass tone. The great thing about bass tones, as opposed to women, is that Trace(y?) doesn't get mad when you diddle around with all the other tonegirls.

    Keep borrowing your buddy's amp, it's a good one, until you find exactly what you need.

    Here's what I did -- get the TE SM-7 eq pedal. It has the 7 band graphic *and* the preshape button, so w/ eq in out that's a lot of different Trace tones available. Once you have your hot sex in a pedal format, you can easily bring it around to other parties to see what other tones you fall in love with. Do A/B comparisons, and look to see what amps/cabs get along best with the TE tone from your pedal.

    Or get a TE preamp and use it w/ the power amp and cab of your choice.

    That said, I don't use preshape 1 as my main tone anymore. I did, for like 5 years, and I will never part with that pedal, and I do have a good TE model programmed into my V-Bass, but for whatever reason I have moved on to another tone-bed.