If i had the cash, i'd get a Moogerfooger Low-Pass Filter. That is THE envelope filter sound that i want. but, at 250+ , i just can't justify it. is there anything that sounds similar (especially if i can control the same kinds of things i can with the MF) at a lower price (preferably around 100?) i just tried a Q-tron and didn't like it so much, and the line6 fm4 has lots of neat sounds but not THE sound. What about that digitech bass synth wah? the thing that really gets my butter churning about the MF is that resonant tone on top, and the ability to dial it out or make it super spacy. the q-trons little 'woop' didn't sound as cool to my ears. or...any multi effect pedals that have both a decent moogerfooger-ish envelope filter and a whammy/harmony setting?