http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/msg/609702457.html Thinking of grabbing that. Contacted seller and he said it was an Arbor. I can't get much beyond it's a really cheap brand but I think the case itself might just be worth it. I'm kind of swinging between this a what I guess is a black sparkle squier fretless bass. Really I'm probably going to get that defret it, and experiment with epoxy. I wouldn't be too angry if the results came out bad on that or the squier. I just want a fretless .