Are you a jazz man or a blues man? Or woman?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by the-lizard-king, Oct 16, 2001.

  1. Are you are Jazz man or a Blues man? Is there anyone who likes both? What type of blues or jazz are you into.
    Im a blues man. I am a huge fan of the blues, and I love any type from forties delta blues to Led Zepplin. From Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker and Leadbelly to the Stones.
    One thing I have noticed is that people who are into the blues are rarely into jazz and vice versa. I've tried to get into jazz, and I like a lot of it, but I just dont get the 'feel' like I do with blues. I have friends who like blues and not jazz, and others who are into jazz and hate blues. I've also noticed a big distinction between their tastes when it comes to non jazz or non blues music. The blues fans all tend to like the same type of popular music, which varies a lot from the type of music that the jazz guys like. What do you think?
  2. Bass Guitar

    Bass Guitar Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2001
    Jazz man.
    Fusion, but I also like rock fusion, progressive styles, avant garde jazz, even some acid jazz at times. Bepop is good too.
  3. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    i'm a fat sideburned rocker. so i am for blues...
  4. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    I like everything :)

    Well maybe not death metal so much, or opera :D

    or Backstreet Britney Sync :rolleyes:

    These days I mostly play blues, but am starting to get my feet wet in jazz. I've been listening to jazz for 30 years, though.

    The trick to "getting" jazz for a blues guy is to listen to the bluesy jazz guys. Probably 50% of the recorded jazz repertoire is nothing but blues.

    Organ combos with tenor sax and guitar are a good place to start...Jimmy Smith, Jack McDuff, etc. Also the sax "honkers" from the 50s, especially Jimmy Forrest ("Night Train") and Illinois Jacquet. You should then check into the early Count Basie sides (try the "Swingsation" compilation).

    There are a number of great blues singers who worked in jazz bands: Joe Williams (with Basie), Jimmy Witherspoon, Jimmy Rushing (also with Basie) can't go wrong with any of these guys, also a cool early 60s Lou Rawls album with Les McCann called "Stormy Monday" that is sort of a soul/jazz/blues hybrid.

    Finally, I'll toss in the standard recommendation for Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" which has no real blues tunes on it but should be very accessible to anyone who likes blues.
  5. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    what about "all blues"? sure it's in 3/4, but it's sure is a blues....
  6. Mingus. Benny Goodman. Ellington. Cab Calloway. To name a few.

    Louis Jordan. T-Bone Walker.

    I know what you mean, though. Jazz might have started with blues, but much of it has lost that root, IMO.
  7. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    I grew up as a Blues man, and slowly morphed into a Jazz man. I'm glad it worked out that way, because it's useful to be able to refer to the blues sound and feel when you want while playing Jazz...but when I play a straight blues gig these days, I get pretty bored.
  8. Blues. Muddy Waters and stuff like that.
  9. First let me say that I enjoy most blues music....

    Now...Blues has a generic feel to it in that it all sounds relatively the same and is very basic to play. (As is rockabilly.) Blues timing is also consistent. There is really nothing else to know about the blues once you find that groove.

    This said, I can't wait to get into a jazz group
  10. SuperDuck


    Sep 26, 2000
    Make mine polka!

    But after that, definitely Jazz, then blues... not that I don't LIKE the blues, it's just that jazz appeals to me more.
  11. Blues for me, specifically the 3 Kings, Albert, BB, and Freddie.
  12. My favorite band is and the special sauce, I don't even know what to call it but it's kind of a white boy urban blues with funk, Oh well I don't feel too bad because even can't describe what kind of music it is.
  13. er, 6/8 I think...

    (shome mishtake shurely... hic!)

    - Wil

    Oh, by the way - I listen to all music. There is Good Music, and there is Bad Music - the trick is determining which is which, but as FZ said "...Music is The Best"...
  14. TonyS


    Dec 13, 1999
    Blues guy here. The Three Kings are right on. Add in a little Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf and Luther Allison.
  15. im a punk rock kid

    but im into jazz too, not so much blues, its too slow
  16. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    in this case, same thing.... :)
  17. i like to LISTEN to blues slightly more, but it's a little boring to play bass to, i'd much rather try to improvise a walking line to some jazz changes. i'm tryin' to be a jazzer, i'll get there someday.
  18. Blues into Jazz. After playing in a blues band for about 4 years I go pretty bored with it. Jazz I can never get bored with. As far as blues I really can't listen it unless it is someone I still find exiting like Roy Buchanan.

    Kennie Wayne Shepard is not the blues.
  19. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999

    No 'real' Blues?!
    "Freddie Freeloader" is a 12-bar Blues...blantantly!
    And when Bird blows "Blues In F" @300+'s still a Blues!


  20. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz Supporting Member

    Oct 18, 2000
    Milwaukee, WI
    i'm a jazz guy to the core.

    give me giant steps at 250 and i'm happy.

    and btw, 6/8 and 3/4 aren't the same, 3/4 is perfect time, imperfect prolation, and 6/8 is imperfect time, perfect prolation, as stated by Phillipe de Vitry.

    damn...too much early music history class for me.