Ashdown Rig Vs Markbass Combo

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by LMSBASS, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    Well guys this is my first thread to post on the forum. Great to be on board and im eager to get some opinions from fellow bass players. anyway, right now I play through a Markbass cmd 121p Combo. I really like it but I play in big venues and the 300w just isn't really enough. also tonely with just the 12'' speaker its very limited although it is capable of some beautiful sounds. also i find it very prone to clipping. Right now I am considering a switch to a Ashdown ABM EVO II Head and a 410t cab. I think its a good move to get that low end punch I want with tone clarity. But I was just wondering what the bass world thought of it. Thanks Lads!:bassist:
     
  2. crguti

    crguti

    Feb 14, 2011
    Scandinavia
    Ashdown is the sh*t. nuff said.
     
  3. As you already own the Markbass amp, consider getting an extension speaker to make use of (up to) the full 500 watts of your amp. You would probably want another 12" speaker and considering you already like the tone you would just get more of what you like.
     
  4. jasper383

    jasper383

    Dec 5, 2004
    Durham NC
    Find out what existing Markbass cab is closest to what is in that combo, and add another.
     
  5. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    ya I was considering an extension cab. there are some nice 2x12 markbass cabs that fit the specs. the only thing is that i have been offered this rig to swap. that means it doesnt cost me anything, where as if I get an extra cab for my markbass its costs me around 700
     
  6. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    Also Im getting an ashdown 2x10 with the rig as well. does anyone have knowledge of these ashdown rigs?
     
  7. If you get a 2x10 go for one in the shape of a foldback wedge.
     
  8. There's a lot of love for Ashdown on this forum. You may want to check the review section.
    The New York 121 would be the appropriate extension which would give you a 2x12 and able to use the full 500 watts of your Markbass amp. You may want to check the price of this extension cab before considering the swap.
    Also, play the Ashdown equipment before you swap. It may not make give you the tone you like with the Markbass equip.
    Good luck with your choice.
     
  9. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    The Markbass Traveler 121 cab will perhaps give you a bit more oomph than the NY121 cab due to it's bigger size. Not sure, though, since I have never played the NY121 cab. I do have a CMD 121H combo, though. It sounds delicious.
     
  10. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    Thanks for the help lads!
     
  11. nick lorenz

    nick lorenz

    Jun 27, 2009
    Cincinnati
    First of all, you should be able to adjust the gain and master so that the amp does not clip. I belive the gain knob on the left side of the head is there to optimize the input signal from your bass and the master on the right is to control the overall volume (someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that). So don't just move the amp if you think it's clipping too easily, I think you can fix that.

    Also, I found an NY121 used at GC for under $300 and it pairs perfectly with that combo. I've sold my 4x10 because it hasn't left the house since I bought the NY121. I think the combo plus the extension cab is all anyone should need for just about any gig.

    Having said that, if you can try the Ashdown, do it and see which one you like better. And then stay away from the classifieds here lest you get gas for something else.
     
  12. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    ya I can get the clip out of the sound but it is bringing me back to my original problem of not really having enough power. when I adjust the gain and the output power on my guitar it makes my stage volume not loud enough and doesnt give me the munch i want. very hard to find a balance. of course this wouldnt be a problem with an extension cab. I am very intruiged to to try this Markbass at its full 500w potential with an 8 ohm cab. I think I am trying the ashdown next week. its a really tough choice. Don't want to let the markbass go to easily.
     
  13. dwjazz54

    dwjazz54

    Jan 21, 2003
    Jersey City, NJ
    I have to second the opinion that you won't know what's going to be best until you try the Ashdown rig next week - a lot of love for Ashdown around here, and with the 410 it will definitely be a hairier rig, but YOU have to be sure it still sounds good to you.

    If not, save up for the extension cab - I, too, run 500 watts through 2x12, and it's more than I need (which is a good thing!).
     
  14. LMSBASS

    LMSBASS

    Jul 11, 2013
    Ireland
    Great reaction guys thanks very much!
     
  15. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    Just FYI, on my Markbass combo and LMIII head I run my gain at about 1:30 because that's the point at which the clip light stops coming on when I play as hard as I'm gonna play. Then, I usually get by with the master volume at around 10:00 for most gigs, sometimes more or less a bit.
     
  16. Hidesert

    Hidesert

    Oct 7, 2011
    Santa Fe
    I own an earlier Ashdown ABM 500 head which I run through a variety of cabinets...Bergantino HT322, AE210, AE112, or Epifani T310 (came with the Ashdown as a package/ local purchase).
    Just a great sounding head. It matches up so nicely with all of my cabs. The two basses I play through it, a Modulus Q5 with EMG pu (active, bright, modern) and Yamaha BB3000 (passive, warm, vintage), always sound great to me throughout heir tonal range.
    I don't use the tube distortion full on...doesn't sound good to me, but I will sometimes add a bit of it for variety.