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Ashdown Vs. Yorkville

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by friggin egg, Mar 18, 2006.


  1. friggin egg

    friggin egg

    Sep 22, 2005
    For the last few months I've been playing out of my guitar players old kustom kasino bass amp through my Avatar 410 Kappa Pro, but now the time has come to get my own amp. So, I was wondering if I could get some advice on which amp to get.

    Ashdown ABM 300 evo II

    or

    Yorkville XS400H

    I've search extensively on both amps, and I have gotten mixed oppinions on both amps. So if you would be so kind as to state which amp you would suggest and why you suggest it, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, If you have any other suggestions on amps that similar, please let me know. Thank you.
     
  2. m1k3_88

    m1k3_88

    Jan 23, 2005
    I'd say the yorkie, ive got it paired with an avatar 410Neo at 4ohms and i've only needed to turn it up to 5 gigging non mic'd. It seems like quite the workhorse but I have not had experience with the Ashdown to compare it to.
     
  3. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I'm sure Ashdown is great, but I have become a great Yorkville fan. They sound fine and are super reliable. The only downside is that my combo is heavy and bulky. Still it's $200 cheaper than a comparable lightweight amp.
     
  4. IotaNet

    IotaNet Supporting Member

    Really?

    I have a Yorkville XM200T and I have yet to hear anything bad about it -- from anywhere.

    And that is consistent with my experience with it -- its a great amp. And the Yorkville warranty ("Even if you break it") can't be beat.
     
  5. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    Sorry, no dissidence, but I personally prefer the Ashdown sound by far. Seems more versatile to me.

    Cheers
    Jay
     
  6. Beefbass

    Beefbass Guest

    Feb 4, 2001

    Hey Corey, I'm digging the XM200C-great amp!! :hyper:

    Which Yorkie extension cab do you think sounds best under this-the XC115XC, XC115, or XC210? I'm gonna be looking to add real soon, so I'd appreciate your input(since you know where I'll be getting it from :) :D )

    You guys at Rock City Guitars "rock"
     
  7. friggin egg

    friggin egg

    Sep 22, 2005
    Smash or Anyone for that matter, If you wouldn't recommend either amps than what would you suggest suggest then. I'm looking for:

    not over $700
    300-500 watts
    tube preamp
    nothing fancy in the way of eq.
    reliable and durable

    If you have any suggestions please share. I am trying not to be so closed minded on my choices. Thanks.
     
  8. well, i'm no where near as education as SMASH, but according to your standards, maybe you should look at GK

    on the other hand, i have an ashdown electric blue combo and its fine, havnt had any problems with it
     
  9. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    Hey Smash, I see you're back to bashing the XS series...got any numbers/specs to back that up? :D

    There was bad QC on the first run...acknowledged (numerous times), fixed, we're long past it. Plus, there's the two year no questions asked warranty, and in this case, if there's something that QC missed, I'm sure they'll take care of it no problem...

    ...and IMO, if you're going to quote "a major dealer", I think you should name them, not just say "major dealer"...


    ...you don't liket them, say you don't like them, fair enough...but to bring in all the other stuff, without substantiation? C'mon dude...everyone can deduce from your posts that you have something against modern day Traynor/Yorkville...not saying you have to like it...but give it a break already!!! Seems like you're on a crusade or something...
     
  10. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    Hey, I call it like I see it, and we've had this discussion before...almost anytime someone asks about Yorkville, you're there to bring up negative stuff...consistently...



    Not at all...as I said, there was some early problems that were fixed, anyone who does a search can see some concerns that were raised by yourself and other people that tried the first ones off the line...I'd be an absolute liar to try to hide from that.



    If I say that's just dumb, would it terribly offend you? Sez right on our site and in our stores that we sell quality used gear as well...we're also in the used market! (I don't say this to plug the store, because I have no desire to go against the CUP or any other TB policy, but just to bring up the fact that the above statement doesn't make any sense...) and if people buy Yorkville on the used market, no one at L&M or YSL are going to cry about it, it's still good for our rep!


    Hmmm...had a contact needed help, and I'm fairly certain, yes, yes, Yorkville COVERED ALL SHIPPING COSTS! I won't question your sources, because again, a simple search will show those who are satisified and disatisfied with Yorkville product and their customer service...



    Ummm...no, you know very well that you're not quoting me, so don't even try. And again, a search will show that yeh, there were early problems, were fixed, and also show the amount of people that were happy with current as well as original run...disregard my opinion as an L&M employee if you wish, but IMO, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill...



    IMO, you have not. There's a search function for anecdotes. You quoted a major dealer...if you'd meant me, you would have said "Rev. Groove who works at L&M"...let me hammer it home dude, you and a few others pointed out some flaws, which was appreciated, they were fixed, and there hasn't been (TMK) any major complaints since...IMO, there's no "poor reliability record", and their numbers have held quite well, until the upgrade, which I won't name in order to not promote it, though you've already stated it in your first post...and even considering, it's STILL doing quite well...





    Well, I guess I could have just directed the original poster to make a search, and they could have seen all your past posts regarding YSL products...and to clarify,


    That's fair enough, but I stand by my original response to that :

    I still say, if you're going to talk about or quote major dealers, then name them, otherwise, it's prejudicial to say something like that. Don't say I or L&M support that statement/POV that there's a "poor record of reliability", we don't (edit: well, I don't, again, see below, I don't speak for L&M. but I'm sure they don't either!)...as I said above, you and actually only one other person on here that I dialogued with on TB (Cirrus) complained about scratchy knobs and some other things I disremember...I believe you contacted Yorkville and spoke with the engineer and another tech, no? So that's four units, admittedly 75% of which were tried by yourself, from the first run that had problems...a search will again show posts from anyone else on TBwho had problems, and a google search will show anyone from other forums as well...none of the ones that came though my store from the first run had issues such as you described...so, there was QC with some units, not ALL units...maybe others had issues, and hopefully YSL's already spectacular customer service dealt with it in it's usual efficient fashion (you did say YSL had good CS, right?)

    I've used Traynor/Yorkville gear since I was 12 years old, that's my frame of reference, which predates my employment by L&M (and again, I'm on TB on my own personal time, not authorised or condoned by L&M in the slightest, and I gain no benefit from saying good things about YSL products...also if I access TB at work, I could get written up and potentially FIRED!!!)...in my personal experience, while the BM (blue carpeted series) blew chunks, the new X series stuff rocks...and wait till...oh dern, never mind, you'll just have to wait...


    ...but I digress...the main point is, you deleted a post by a major dealer for saying something that can be perceived as negative about a brand (though rightly as a dealer per the CUP, he shouldn't have posted what he said,), and then tried to quote another dealer doing the same thing...somethings not right here man...I mean, I can agree to disagree, and we have in the past, but I'm personally disappointed you went that route man...uncool...
    :eyebrow:
     
  11. DAcat

    DAcat

    Jun 14, 2005
    Iowa
    I have to put a word :D in on this one...I am really in debt to Smash because he posted so much about the Schroeder cabs which were a major reason to convince me to try out a couple Schroeder cabinets...but I never would have been able to figure out which cab to get without testing and comparing it with my own bass and amp and ears to see which one produced the sound I liked best...well, I liked the sound of the Schro 410 (4 ohm)much better than the 1210-I got it and its probably the best I've felt about a speaker cabinet since I started playing a long time ago(Thanks Smash:) ). Then I decided to upgrade my amplifier. I then took my bass and Schroeder 410 cab all over the place,and then tried out different heads...and after trying Eden WT800,GKRB1000,numerous SVT models,and SWR 750 and 900 models, I chose the Yorkville's XS800H amp's sound hands down, to go with my bass and Schro 410 cabinet. Although I've only had the Yorkie for 6 months,I've played it at least once a day and it has had no problems whatsoever,and I've been extremely pleased with this amps' versitility,volume, and tone. I'm not disagreeing with any thing Smash or the Rev have said-I know that they were honestly stating there own opinions to help guide you in your choices(they both may have different experiences than I do with Yorkville products,,,however ,if I do have a bad experience with the Yorkville I will be reporting It here asap...see my comments about Fender P-basses below...in fact I learned something from both of their posts-yet these comments don't reflect my individual experience with my Yorkville head)...I guess I feel that we are lucky these days to have many good amps and cabs to choose from....everyone likes a little different sound and only YOU can decide for yourself what sound you will like. About 35 years ago I bought a Fender Precision bass-not because it was the best bass for me, but because most of the rock bassists then were using them and I was"advised" by a well-meaning bassist in a well-known group our band had opened for to get one...so I foolishly did,and I suffered trying to play that big ol' bass until I opened my eyes and realized finally after trying a bass with a thinner,flatter neck that I could play without feeling cramped,was able to play well on the lower fretts, and essentially played at least 50% better almost immediately on this easier to play bass-so I got wise and got rid of the P-bass and got the bass that fit my hands that I could make sing. So, as the saying goes ....try before you buy, and hear and feel how things are to YOU...peace to all...DAcat... :cool:
     
  12. I thought smash was being perfectly reasonable...
     
  13. Rezdog

    Rezdog Supporting Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    T.Rez, Canada
    Greetings from the North,
    I've been running a Yorkville XS series head for over a year now and have not had one problem with it. Unlike Smash's experience this thing has been dropped a couple of times and slid down a stairway and there was no damage to it other than a few scrapes. It still kicks like brand new and there is nothing dainty or delicate about these heads. Maybe the early XS400 series may have had issues but they don't anymore. From what I've read Smash is pretty insightful and likes what he likes, but I've been playin for a long time and have seen alot of stuff come and go. I can tell you the Yorkville XS series are a good deal. Plenty power, great sounds, and an outstanding warranty that most manufacturers can't touch ie Carvin,Ashdown etc. Do not be afraid, Yorkville are heavy duty. Check em out for yourself.
    Rezdog
     
  14. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    I think you do...just my humble opinion dude...and usually, if someone posts a negative opinion, I try to contact them and see if I can help in some way...we just keep running into each other like this constantly, and my major issue again is this quoting of a "major dealer".


    ...Corey PM'd me to explain what happened with his post...I still don't know why you've left it as part of your post...so I'll publicly retract that portion of my post and apologise for that...

    ...but I still maintain that for you to quote "major dealers" in a negative connotation without naming them, is wrong. I'd say that if you were talking about Yorkville, Ashdown, or any other brand. Up until know, I had some respect despite our difference of opinion, but IMO, that's out of bounds.

    ...and per the CUP, I don't gush about Yorkville, I only respond to posts and clarify issues as needed...and to counter your posts. I never said there were only four with problems, I said there were four that I knew of personally, and that I hoped any other problems were dealt with, per your previous post, with YSLs stellar CS. I believe I used the term (TMK), "to my knowledge".

    Said my piece...I think we can go back and forth on this and niggle every little point ad nauseoum, emphasis on the nauseuom. You're not a fan, I'm a big fan...as we've both said many times before, let's agree to disagree, and leave it at that...
     
  15. Kelu

    Kelu

    Dec 6, 2002
    Lille in France
  16. Strictly going with Tone Ashdown
    Tone and reliability Yorkville.
    Probably the 2 most reliable amp manufacter's out there are Yorkville and Peavey IMO
     
  17. 62bass

    62bass

    Apr 3, 2005
    I have been playing professionaly for a long time. I've used Yorkville gear a lot. Sometimes rented, sometimes owned, sometimes part of a back line. I've never had a problem with any of it.

    I didn't like the sound of the early 400 watt combo. Not many people did from what I observed, but they were loud and reasonably priced. The sound of the new series of Yorkville bass gear is very good and it's well worth what it costs. I've found everything I've used from Yorkville to be very reliable. Long and McQuade's trade in policy is quite generous.

    For two persons to argue like children just to make themselves right cheapens the credibility of both. It's just not professional.
     
  18. sorry about this but as a classics student it hurts a bit! ad nauseAM would be correct, although nauseom would be an interesting pseudo-greek adaption...nauseaon perhaps, although really then would be a gender switch....wow is anyone else having as much fun with this thread as me?! Any other latinists in the hood?

    As for my choice: the ashdown, as i did myself- the tone shaping is a little more sturdy and especially over in the uk there's plenty of support.
     
  19. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    Sorry, not my intent to offend, or come across as unprofessional, sorry if you percieve it in that way.

    At this point, any further discussion if there need be (IMO, not needed) should be via PM. As I said, I'm done with this.
     
  20. RevGroove

    RevGroove Commercial User

    Jul 21, 2002
    Burlington ON Canada
    Manager, Account Services: Long & McQuade Ltd. (Burlington); MTD Kingston Basses International Emerging Artist; Bartolini Electronics Emerging Artist
    And on this, I SHOULD know better...mea culpa, thanks for the correction...