****** ass equipment!!!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by eq777, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. eq777


    May 27, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    Can someone please help with some advice? This is what gear I have: Hartkey Hybird 1x15( 8 ohnms, 500 watts:); 1 GK Neo 410( 8 ohms, 800 Watts). A Hartkey LH 1000, 1100 watts at 4 ohms; A David Eden Pre-Amp Pedal; A BBE rack mount sonic maximizer; an aleisis multi-effect and a 1998 American Deluxe John Suhr Fender Jazz 5. I also have a cheap Sampson Wireless system which gives me a whole lot of pink noise. I only paid $50 bucks for it brand new at Sam Ash however. I have the amp running in series which is what the guys from GK and Hartke recommended. My amp cut off twice tonight on the gig. The power was still on but no sound. It was as if it was overheating or something. I had it only on 3 or 4 the most. The eq was as follows: Bass around 8 or 9 o'clock; mids cranked all the way and the treble around 10 o'clock. With the Eden pre-amp, I had the bass all the way down and mids in the middle and treble in the middle. The gain and master were half way up and the enhance was around 4 o'clock and the compression was around 9 o'clock. Why would my amp cut off like that? It took around 5 min before I could get a sound out of it. I think it had some sort of circuit breaker on it. But for me to be playing at around 3 or 4, why would it cut off? Yeah, the amp was hot, but it has a built in fan. Is this a crappy amp and should I get something else? or,is there something else I could do? ` Can't afford for this to keep happening on gigs in the middle of songs...please help....I also experience this loud ass annoying pink/white noise which I think is coming from the stage lighting. It goes away partially if I turn a certain way, but then it comes back and it is really loud. How do I get rid of this? The pros on the major tours don't seem to have these types of problems when they gig. How can I get my **** right? Please help all you pro guys out there....Also bear in mind that I do not come through the PA and I'm forced to combat with the house. Sometimes the bass breaks up and the speakers give me a distorted, warbled sound as if they can't handle the bass. I need help guys...
  2. Dude, paragraphs...

    Could be the power supply, but I'm no expert.
  3. majortoby


    Jul 2, 2009
    Tampa, Fl USA
    Please explain how you had the speakers wired in series....I'm curious about this
  4. silky smoove

    silky smoove Supporting Member

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    Eliminate variables. Plug the LH into the GK and go from there. That combination should get plenty loud for most gigs.

    It sounds to me like you were simply asking too much from your rig (no PA support, distorted tone, etc.). If you find the problem recurring, you should either get a second GK Neo 410, or get your signal into the PA via a DI or a mic.
  5. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    Yes, you do need help. Spacing and paragraphs would help immensely.

    The "pink noise" you speak off sounds like your picking up outside hums, like fluorescent lighting, can be addressed by giving your bass a proper shielding job, if it is a Fender it has never had that done. Also, try using just a cable into the amp, wireless systems, especially cheap ones, are really bad for sucking out tone and adding in unwanted noise.

    If your speakers are distorting, you are blowing them, turn it down and/or adjust your EQ.
  6. I am not being a smart a$$ but, what is pink/white noise?
  7. eq777


    May 27, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    Sorry. I wasnt thinking bout paragraphs. Should have made it easier to read my post. Thanks though...
  8. eq777


    May 27, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    Its just a loud hiss that you get...
  9. eq777


    May 27, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    As far as series, I go into the gk with a speakon cable then out of the gk into the hartke 15 with a 1/4 inch speaker cable.
  10. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Washington, Utah
    John K Custom Basses
    daisy chaining cabs like that it still running them in parallel. (i.e. it will halve the value of the two cab's impedance).
  11. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    I think we have the answer...:eek: :eek: :eek:
  12. Thanks for the reformat Doc. I wasn't going to read the OP.

    Possibly a bad cable.

    When you say connected in series you're talking about the preamp etc, not speakers?
  13. Yes thank you for reformatting! If your speakers are complaining then it does not matter where the "volume" is on the amp. You have enough signal strength to over-power your cabs. You may have already damaged them, either the amp is seeing an overload or the speakers are overheating and soon won't come back. You need to be in the FOH.
    I suspect the 115 is the worst off.
  14. eq777


    May 27, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    Well firstly, thanks for all the input. I must say that the rig has been working perfectlly for several months. I have been playing in small places that dont require me to be too loud.

    It was only last night that the amp's circuit breaker tripped.

    I assumed that if I my 410 cab can hold 800 watts and the 15 can hold 500, I would be ok.

    Its very distubing to think that I might be blowing the speakers. Yesterday, after my amp shut off, I adjusted my eq and it sounded just fine. Except for that loud pink noise.
  15. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Cab ratings can be misleading. More often than not, they cannot handle what they're rated for, due to the frequencies your bass is capable of. (lower you go, more power you eat). Lose the 15, get another matching 410, and watch the eq.
  16. Also bear in mind that the 115 cab will only handle about 1/2 the volume of the 410, another 410 will help get loud-clean.
    If you have to use both 410 & 115, put the 115 on top-then you'll hear it complaining before it blows (if it already hasn't).
  17. wcriley


    Apr 5, 2010
    Western PA
    Sounds like you may have a problem with the head, or your speaker cabs/cables.

    Seems counterproductive. Doesn't the "Enhance" knob cut the mids you're boosting elsewhere?
  18. JHAz


    Jun 29, 2011
    In case you might find it interesting and not unduly boring . . . white noise is sound with constantly varying levels of all the frequencies, that has, on average, equal levels of every frequency. So as much 40 Hz as 1000 Hz. Pink noise is like white noise except it has equal power in each octave, so as much 40 - 80 Hz as 1000-2000 Hz. In other words, less and less power as you go up in frequency. AFAIK, pink noise was developed to more closely mimic the frequency spectrum power of real music, etc.

    In my day the dinosaurs and I called it all white noise, but they've become extinct and I've learned a little since them . . .
  19. nysbob


    Sep 14, 2003
    Cincinnati OH
    Lose the BBE for starters...and the wireless is suspect. It sounds to me like you're really overloading the front end of that amp, so even if your knobs are not extreme, the signal you're giving it is.
  20. You can always start without all the "effects" and straight with a cable to the amp. Add one component at a time to find the noise maker.