For all of you Avatar naysayers lets do a quick comparison between the two. Avatar / Aguilar B112 / GS112 Kappa 12 80 oz mag / Cast Frame? 12 56 oz mag 400 w@ 8 ohm / 300 w@ 4 or 8 ohm No crossover / Custom crossover 2 rear ports / 2 front ports 18x18x15 40 lbs / 14x19x18 42 lbs 1 year warranty / 3 year warranty $179 + 25 shipping / 399 + shipping from MF B410 / GS410 Delta 10 56 oz mag / Cast frame 56 oz mag 1400w 350x4 / 700w 175x4 Foster horn / Phenolic tweeter No crossover / custom crossover 4 rear ports / 2 front slots 25x25x16.5 79 lbs / 28.25x22.50x16.625 98lbs 279+42 shipping / 859.99+ shipping from MF The only major difference that I can see between these cabs is the crossover and port placement. So how would some weekend warrior on a budget justify the extra cost of the more expensive cab? Just by looking at the raw stats, I would think that the sound difference would be minimal unless a fancy crossover and phenolic? tweeter makes that big of a difference. Help me out guys/gals. What do you think? If you take the names off of the cabs and put them side by side could you honestly say that one was twice as good as the other??