Avatar Cabs VS. Carvin Cabs

i think this has been done before, i might be wrong, but most people seem to lean towards avatar......carvin cabs (4x10) have been know to break up during the lows

 

Given 2 roughly equivalent products, I prefer a manufacturer that provides complete information about their cabinet (Avatar). Carvin publishes a response graph, but that doesn't really tell the complete story without knowing what the driver excursion is like at a given frequency.

 

I believe Avatar is more "bang for the buck" until you talk about the tonal quality of the products, then who knows? Its just whatever you like.

I choose Avatar, myself.

 

this has been done before, and avatar won. i use a carvin RL115 and it doesnt handle lows like a 15 should. but i havent tried an avatar but everyone else seems to like them. im not voting for avatar, im just saying dont get carvin.

 

I had both.

Carvin is not even in the same category as Avatar.

Carvin= Hard to find any usable tone, no low end (if you own a 5 string your gonna be frustrated), very brittle horn with some weird attenutor switches that require a physics degree to figure out!

Avatar= great tone, excellent low end, a knob for the adjustable horn, can handle just about as much power as you can throw at it, built like a tank!

As far as customer service, Dave at Avatar sat on the phone with me, after hours, on "his" time, for almost an hour discussing my needs and requirements. Carvin, which is half an hour away, has sales personnel that doesn't even know the specs of their own cabs and while I was in there it took three of them to figure out how to connect two cabs bi-amped. Even then they got it wrong! When my head had a problem they told me they couldn't replace a simple circuit board, they had to sell me "another" at a discount (not much of one) with my old head in trade. What where they gonna do with my old head? Probably sell it to make up for the discount!

 

I own an Avatar CB115 cab which is his cheapest cab. The 15" driver is the same one he puts in all his other cabs, only the cabinet is smaller and has no tweeter (option to add one might I add). I'm really satisfied. This cab is no piece of ****. I'm pushing 240 watts into this cabinet and its damn loud, with enough lows and mids, does its job as a woofer fine and it can amplify your highs too. I've played through the Carvin Cyclops (the combo with a 15 and 2x8 in it) and I must say this cabinet alone has better lows. Tuned a bit higher, but Im sure it can handle more power than the combo can without breaking up... And the Cyclops isnt a bad amp at all in my opinion, I just think this avatar is a better deal and a better investment.

 

Avatar. I havent een played through one and i like them more than the carvins. Carvin makes good heads, but try to steer clear of the cabs.

 

I believe my brother TJ summed this up very nicely. I've been beating the crap out of my Avatar 4x10 for over a year now and it is indeed a "tank". Good luck Mike.

 

I can't say which is best because I haven't played through an Avatar. I will say that I A/Bd my Carvin RL210 against and eden 210 and thought that the carvin was more transparent. Translation: it sounded more like my bass acoustically sounds. YMMV When I purchased the Carvin, Avatar wasn't around. I also replaced the 15 in an old Fender sidekick cab with a Carvin 8 ohm cast frame, and it handles the B string just fine.

Wow what a news flash, the owner of a small but growing speaker company knows more about his product than a minimum wage sales dweeb at Carvin who also sell PAs, guitars, etc. Yes you will find that some of Carvins employees are not up to specs on "everything they sell", but I have always gotten great courteous service and products from them, which they stand behind.

 

True, true. You won't get accurate specs from the guys at Guitar Center either. BTW, I've had good customer service dealing with Carvin and have no complaints.