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Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by superfreak, Nov 12, 2002.

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  1. superfreak

    superfreak Unregistered

    Aug 18, 2002
    Clarksville, TN
    Food for thought:

    This sort of long, and may be controversial...However, I dare everyone to take a look at it and express your thoughts...Thank you.

    Ok, I tried to get it downloaded, however it will not work, so please forgive me for the long Thread...Here it is:

    The national media did not cover this story: please read.
    Columbine Update September 18, 2002
    Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, hmm? On Thursday,
    Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High
    School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the
    House Judiciary Committee's sub-committee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he had to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every
    sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These
    courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating,
    and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a
    voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:
    "Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts
    of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds
    of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and
    the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died
    must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers." "The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart." "In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how
    quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here
    to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are
    responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they
    need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent." "I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a
    poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written
    way before I knew I would be speaking here today":
    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You've stripped away our heritage,
    You've outlawed simple prayer
    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question "Why?"
    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!
    "Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body,
    soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our
    make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and
    wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems
    for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as
    theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!" "As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and
    saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray
    in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge
    every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April
    20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools.
    Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to
    Move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!" Do what the media did not - -let the nation hear this man's speech.
  2. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    If this is in any way what the majority of the U.S. citizen think, then the U.S. are really becoming a theocracy.
    This must be a record-breaking use of religious references and phrases outside a church or a dubya speech...

    No modern democracy needs a personal right to bear arms. The days of the pioneers and frontiers are over.
  3. It's not. The guy's a fundie. Fundies go out of their way to make it appear that everyone in the US thinks like them.

    That said, I agree with his main thrust--maybe stricter gun laws would have stopped some of the other school shootings, but these kids were committed, and nothing would have done it.

    That said, I think a mod should probably close this thread ASAP, given that it's extremely likely to devolve either into fundie-bashing or a gun control debate, both of which have been done to death here.
  4. Bard2dbone


    Aug 4, 2002
    Arlington TX
    I have to go along with one part before this is closed.

    What makes anyone think that someone who is willing to break the law against murder would be willing to follow the (eventual) law against having a weapon?

  5. I agree, I think he's maybe oversimplified the issues a little!
  6. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
  7. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    nothing like semi-erroneous information to be the ideal seed for a flame war.

    closed, and thanks for the refs, bassmonkeee.

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