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B2R questions

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Bass18, Aug 24, 2001.


  1. Bass18

    Bass18 Guest

    Jul 21, 2001
    Australia
    Is an Ampeg B2R head a suitable, less powerful substitute for an Ampeg SVT3 head? Do they have the same or similar sound?
     
  2. EString

    EString

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    If you can't afford the SVT3, you don't really have too many other choices, so yes, I would say the sound it fairly close.
     
  3. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    IMO, The B2R sounds better & is louder than the SVT III. I've played them back to back numerous times @ different stores, through the same cabinet & the result was always the same.

    Go for the B2R!!!<img src="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif">

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  4. ASR

    ASR

    Apr 2, 2001
    Houston, Texas


    I have to agree with ya, Nino. The B2R is a great amp for the money. I personally went with the B4R because I thought that I was going to need the power, but I now wish I would have gone with the B2R and a smaller cab.
     
  5. EString

    EString

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    Hey, Bass18, if you decide to get the B-2R, I may be able to sell you a brand new one.
    Contact me if interested.
     
  6. Bass18

    Bass18 Guest

    Jul 21, 2001
    Australia
    What are other brands that would be similar sound to Ampeg? Or are they so unique that there are no others that sound like them?
     
  7. I've only played them in stores, but, Ashdowns are in the same general category as Ampegs. You'd have to A/B them and decide which you like.

    Mike J.
     
  8. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    You shouldn't be worried about the Ampeg "sound" compared to another amp. The Ampeg sound is the SVT all tube head w/SVT 810 cab & will put you in the down about $2200.:)

    Play as many heads as you can. Try to play them w/the same bass & through the same cabinet so you can really tell the differences in the head as opposed to totally different setups. IMO the B-2R is great, but play a GK RB-400, Hartke 4000, etc.

    :Yoda voice on:
    The more you try, the best you will buy. ;)
    :Yoda voice off:
     
  9. EString

    EString

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    FORSFYD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. phunky345

    phunky345

    Jun 20, 2000
    Missoula, MT
    I've been playing the b2r for over a year now, and it's soo wonderful. It sounds great, is easy to use, doesn't weigh much, and is as loud as anyone could really need with the exception of hair bands with walls of speakers. I've dropped it on concrete (though I try to be nice to it) and all that happened was a little scratch on the gray paint. If you find it clipping at the volume you want to be at, go with another 8-ohm cab to pretty much double your volume. And if that's not enough, get a b-5r or one of the svt-pro's.
     
  11. A B2R WILL give you the "Ampeg sound" (chunky, kinda woolly/undefined, barking midrange, can make passive basses sound active, IME).

    But, the B2R is kinda underpowered. Supposedly 350w @ 4ohms...bollocks, more like 200-250. A GK800RB and a (local) Rockit Bass 300 (both 300w) left it for dead volume-wise, but not tone.

    Kicks nicely with an 8x10, is lightweight (GKs are lighter) and reliable. Graphic eq IME didn't do a helluva lot.

    Good bang for the buck, but yeah, try out some other heads (Hartke, Ashdown ABM/MAG, GK) to get a feel of what sounds like what. Ashdown would be the closest to the "Ampeg sound".
     
  12. 5not4

    5not4

    Sep 7, 2000
    Flint, MI
    I'm currently using a B2R with a SWR WM4x10 and there's definitely an AMPEG sound there. Maybe not a true SVT sound but you're talking apples to oranges here. It's plenty loud enough for small to medium size gigs. I like some of the options it has such as the switchable pre/post EQ DI and Ultra-mid control.

    I think you'll like it if you're after the AMPEG sound and portability. Watch out for the some of the used gear. I'm having some undervoltage problems with mine (I'll save this for another post).