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Bad Music? Is there such a thing?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Airsick Pilot, Jul 14, 2003.


  1. Airsick Pilot

    Airsick Pilot Cleopatra

    Jul 29, 2002
    Cockpit(throwing up)
    Hey guys, I had a discussion with a fellow musician once. He said that there is no such thing as bad music. He said that music is just a bunch of notes strung together so there can be no bad music. I on the otherhand believe that there is such a thing as bad music. I categorize music that are poorly composed and executed as bad. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    1) I take the stance of what one calls music is strictly a matter of opinion. It was originally defined as "Sounds combined". Someone then recorded birds, bar noises, etc and played it for the definers of the world and said, "Is this music?" (Anyone know who I'm talking about?)

    2) Also this is music related (defining "bad music" so therefore it'll probably end up in misc)

    3) I like pizza.
     
  3. Airsick Pilot

    Airsick Pilot Cleopatra

    Jul 29, 2002
    Cockpit(throwing up)
    I like pizzas too. I like em plain without any toppings. What about you?
     
  4. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA

    hehe, don't derail your own thread dude, this could be a fun discussion.



    P.s. Chicken Supreme at Pizza Hut :ninja:
     
  5. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    To further my opinion on the topic, with the whole avante gaurde/noise genre of music, music can be a very general term. Music is an artform, and effective art should have some kind of impact on you, so therfore, good music has an impact on you. Bad music is just kinda there. You don't say, "I hate this, I love this, this is weird, this is pretty" you just kinda ignore it, that's bad music to me.
     
  6. Sticky Fingers pizza from Fatties is the best :p Comes w/ Canadian Bacon, Bacon, Sasuage (sp??), Shrooms...errr, mushrooms, olives and bell peppers :D Mmmm, good stuff! As for your question, there isn't bad music, there is music you can stand to listen to and music that just makes you wanna barf, cept for I think Korn is bad music :p How can you call what Fieldy plays music?
     
  7. Airsick Pilot

    Airsick Pilot Cleopatra

    Jul 29, 2002
    Cockpit(throwing up)
    Yes I'm sure it would be a fun discussion. Thats why I posted the thread :p

    *Waits*

    *Waits some more*

    Urm yeah this is fun!

    Lets have some pizzas while we wait for the others to chip in, shall we? :D
     
  8. Chip is singular for chips which is plural :D i want chips now!
     
  9. Airsick Pilot

    Airsick Pilot Cleopatra

    Jul 29, 2002
    Cockpit(throwing up)
    I've listened to some poorly executed music. They were not just badly executed, blood was practically flowing out of my ears when I listened to it. It was that irritating. It wasn't pleasant at all. Wouldn't you call something like that "bad" music?
     
  10. Naw, I'd call it "Music I can't stand to listen to" but not bad!
     
  11. Airsick Pilot

    Airsick Pilot Cleopatra

    Jul 29, 2002
    Cockpit(throwing up)
    Hmm yeah I think thats a more appropriate way of describing it.
     
  12. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    I need more cowbell.
     
  13. Davehenning

    Davehenning

    Aug 9, 2001
    Los Angeles
    I think Miles said it best:

    "Music is wide open. There is no right or wrong."
    (paraphrasing)


    Each to their own.
     
  14. It is all someones opinion, but I definately think there is bad music. Someone somewhere will almost always like something that someone doesn't. If it is just executed really badly, then some might not like it, and then it could be considered bad.

    jtbp
     
  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Peter Warlock
    ". . . music is neither old nor modern: it is either good or bad music, and the date at which it was written has no significance whatever. Dates and periods are of interest only to the student of musical history. . . . All old music was modern once, and much more of the music of yesterday already sounds more old-fashioned than works which were written three centuries ago. All good music, whatever its date, is ageless -- as alive and significant today as it was when it was written . . ." The Sackbut, 1926

    Oscar Wilde
    Of course music is a great difficulty. You see, if one plays good music, people don't listen,
    and if one plays bad music people don't talk.

    "There's only two ways to sum up music; either it's good or it's bad. If it's good you don't mess about with it, you just enjoy it." -Louis Armstrong
     
  16. wulf

    wulf

    Apr 11, 2002
    Oxford, UK
    Music needs a much broader range of adjectives than just 'good' and 'bad' - on the other hand, how you use the labels says as much about you as it does about the music in question.

    Judgements about how competently and confidently the music has been developed and delivered are a little less subjective (bearing in mind that many trite songs have been made great by those who've performed them and many great songs have been butchered by underskilled players) but still the adage, "one man's meat is another man's poison" remains.

    The bottom line is that I could dig up some songs that I never want to hear again and somebody else would love them. Good? Bad? Just not to my taste...

    Wulf

    ps. of course, something that is widely accepted as 'good' can wear that label fairly confidently.