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Bag End S15-D and low B string

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by basss, Oct 24, 2001.

  1. Oct 24, 2001 #1
    basss

    basss Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2001
    NY
    Ive heard a lot of good things about these cabinets but I haven't seen much about thier ability to handle low B strings. The specs and the Bag End website say that the low end response goes down to 50hz +/- 6db which is well above the fundamental freq of the low B. Specs don't always tell the whole story though and I was wondering if there were any 5 string players out there with experience with this cabinet.
     
  2. Oct 24, 2001 #2
    ColonelZulu

    ColonelZulu Not Impressed By Those Who Flaunt “Authority” Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2001
    Pennsylvania
    I use the S15B-D. I think it is rated 40-4khz. I'm all over my B-string at some pretty wild volumes.

    It is a great cab. I like the front-ported set-up. It's not TOOOO heavy.

    Look at the ELF systems they have too.
     
  3. Oct 24, 2001 #3
    KPO2000

    KPO2000 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    MA
    Hey Zulu Funk, just curious...I have one of those deep back 15" Bag Ends as well. Did you unscrew the wood plate covering the front port or leave it on. I just went from using the bag end full range to combining it in a biamp setup and putting the wood plate back on. I am not sure if like it as much but it sounds great too. I'm thinking of taking the wood plate back off.
    Cheers,
    Ken
     
  4. Oct 24, 2001 #4
    john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i'm not familiar with that exact cab, but if you've got the port covered on a sub, turning it into a closed-box, for all intents and purposes, than your low frequency response will suffer greatly. bag end probably has that feature on there so that the box can be used with the ELF processing unit, which works in conjunction with a closed box, or without the ELF, in which case you would want the port to maximize the low freq response.
     
  5. Oct 25, 2001 #5
    KPO2000

    KPO2000 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    MA
    Thanks, John. I did notice that the lows muddied up much more than I thought they would when I put the port cover back on. Looks like I need to take it off again. ;)
     
  6. Oct 25, 2001 #6
    bgavin

    bgavin

    May 3, 2001
    Orangevale, CA 95662
    Now that is interesting. A sealed cabinet is reputed to have tighter bass than a ported cabinet, but it rolls off at a higher frequency and has less low bass extension than the ported cabinet.

    Were you turning up the bass EQ when running as a sealed cabinet?
     
  7. Oct 25, 2001 #7
    KPO2000

    KPO2000 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    MA
    I don't think I was being very clear because I am new to this jargon, but here's how the sounds differed:

    Port open: better mid range, punch--more full range sounding.

    Port closed: muffled, but deeply resonating bass. Sounded similiar to have subwoofer only "on" such as in home stereo satellite+subwoofer system.

    The rig I am running it in is
    bass>signal splitter>Alembic F2b stereo pre>Stereo EQ>Stereo compressor> QSC 2402 2 channel amp> 2x10(highs) & 1X15" deep back Bag End (lows).

    I'm still experimenting. Basically, the 15" cab when port is closed sounds pretty good with the 2x10, but not so great when used alone full range. (It is a PAIN to replace/remove the port cover based on the situation.)

    Thanks!
    Ken
     
  8. Oct 25, 2001 #8
    basss

    basss Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2001
    NY
    Thanks for the info so far. Anybody using the bag end S15-D that is not the deeper back(thats the S15B-D) with a 5 string? It seems quite a bit more portable than the deep back-44lbs. vs. 70lbs.- which is important for me because I take the subway to gigs sometimes- every lbs. counts. Ive heard the shallower cab with a four string and it sounds great but have yet to hear it with a five.
     
  9. Oct 25, 2001 #9
    cb56

    cb56

    Jul 2, 2000
    Ozarks
    I do! I do!
    I use 2 bag ends behind me and a Carvin 210 wedge in front by my vocal mic. Low B sounds great to me,of course I might not be as particular as you. I know I can play a low B and low C and distiguish the difference between the two notes and hear a nice growly low end. not as much boom as my old Ampeg 18 cab but IMO that's a good thing.
     
  10. Oct 25, 2001 #10
    Steve S

    Steve S

    Jul 26, 2000
    I use one too with my five string. Sounds great!
     
  11. Oct 26, 2001 #11
    Jerry J

    Jerry J Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    P-town, OR
    Me TOO! Sadowsky 5 string, Eden WT-800 and an S15X-D.:D
     
  12. Oct 27, 2001 #12
    basss

    basss Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2001
    NY
    OK! Thanks!