Band fired drummer, not happy. Should I walk?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Mantis Tobaggan, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. Mantis Tobaggan

    Mantis Tobaggan Supporting Member

    Sep 9, 2015
    St. Petersburg, FL
    Whether he was fired or quit is kind of debatable. But regardless, the guitar player and him just did not work well together and eventually had a blowout and really couldn't work it out. I am friends with both of them but I doubt they will ever play together again.

    I see why they didn't get along, but both were in the wrong in certain ways.

    I really think the drummer is good. I am not sure what to do. We are auditioning a new drummer tomorrow.

    I get that the drummer was tough to get along with a lot of the time. The guy had a lot of quirks for sure. However, he had a lot of heart, worked hard, was an amazing drummer, and even hauled the equipment.

    I previously posted about fighting with my band about pay to play. I am very much against it and would like to be promoting our own shows and getting other local bands on the ticket but these guys (minus drummer) seem to really like doing pay to play. I think a big part of why we are no longer all together is because of pay to play.

    I like our music (original metal), but don't want to do pay to play and I don't like that the drummer is out. I am pretty sure I am going to walk but I am curious as to what you guys think. Thanks.
  2. LowFish


    Nov 8, 2014
    Coastal NC
    Walk!! Life is waaaaaay too short to do pay to play! These cats have already gone behind your back on the pay to play.
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  3. +1. You'll be next to get fired anyway.
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  4. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Inactive Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    run! run!
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  5. dtripoli


    Aug 15, 2010
    The doors of future and better opportunities won't open until you close this one.
    It's scary being bandless but it won't be for long.
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  6. kikstand454


    Sep 28, 2012
    What the others have said.

    Furthermore, know how hard it is to find a good, professional metal drummer?!?!

    Metal guitarists on the other hand, you can close your eyes and throw a rock....
  7. sqlb3rn


    Apr 6, 2016
    not if you want a good one that is also good at writing and composing. my favorite genre is metal, but ironically I don't like most metal bands because a lot (most) of them plain suck.
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  8. The Regulator

    The Regulator

    Aug 10, 2005
    If you decide to leave the current band, start a new one with the drummer. Like someone said before, a good metal drummer is hard to find.
    I would also add that a good drummer for just about every style of music is hard to find.
  9. garp


    Feb 7, 2009
    Connecticut USA
    "Oh you had better go now. Go now. Go now. Go now."
    – The Moody Blues, Go Now (1964)
  10. brbadg


    Nov 10, 2006
    I always thought pay to play was to prove you could draw enough people. Or to showcase your band. I guess that's just not the case.
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  11. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    The Emily Post Book of Etiquette clearly states on page 143:
    3.a If you are a bass player and the drummer is fired from your band, the proper response is to rage quit as soon as possible. Greeting cards are not required, and in fact might be considered offensive.

    So there you have it.
  12. Woolber

    Woolber Supporting Member

    Sep 27, 2013
    Fire the drummer....

    Oh, wait.....
  13. Mantis Tobaggan

    Mantis Tobaggan Supporting Member

    Sep 9, 2015
    St. Petersburg, FL
    Lol! I kinda want to but i will probably just non-rage quit ...
  14. interp


    Apr 14, 2005
    Garmisch, Germany
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  15. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Sep 7, 2006
    Blimp City USA
    Sounds like a mess all!
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  16. ubernator


    Oct 30, 2004
    lost angels
    Pay to play. Exploiting the metal scene since 1976 :rollno::rage:
  17. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    And here's why. Metal music is mostly a guy thing. Chics like bands that play pop/dance music and will go where they are. Dudes go where the chics are. Bar owners hire bands that will bring in the chics.
    Evidence - Why do you think bars have ladies nights?
    Please understand I'm not knocking metal, I like some of it. I'm just stating a business reality.
  18. kikstand454


    Sep 28, 2012
    There are plenty of chicks at metal shows.

    I went to see slayer, anthrax and death angel this past Tuesday night (yeah in the middle of the week even) at the hard rock in Orlando and the crowd split was probably 60/40 dudes. Of course, a good dance pop band will have more like a 70/30 chick split....and any cover band situation at a bar that's what you hope for....but don't just believe that it's a massive sausage fest at metal shows. Hell at Rockville in Jacksonville every year, a metal festival, I'd be willing to say it may be 50/50.

    Edit: admittedly, this is a semi- new development. Back in my day...metal shows were totally dominated by guys. 5:1....easily. and you did say MOSTLY.
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  19. Tanner5382


    Sep 26, 2010
    Georgia, USA
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  20. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Springtown, Texas
    Concert crowds and dance crowds are different. Chics will go to concerts to see famous bands, but they don't typically seek out local metal venues. They may like metal, but metal isn't dance music.
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