Band not worth it? (semi-rant)

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Vince S., Jul 8, 2003.

  1. Vince S.

    Vince S. Resident Former Bassist

    Jan 24, 2003
    I just got back from our first band "session" today, and Im pretty dissappointed with the state that we are in.

    First, our frontman insisted that our style be a mix of Anti-Flag and NOFX. He then told us to copy parts of their songs and reorder them to form songs. We practiced for a little while, the guitarist playing progressions while I played off of what he was doing.

    Our frontman, however, did not agree with my playing style. He said it was too "complicated" for punk, and insisted that I just play the root notes of the guitar chords.

    We then went to the frontman's friend's house, and stayed there for a while, where we met another guitarist. So now we have two guitarists. We go back and try to play, and Im pretty much restricted to playing root notes.

    Overall, I wasnt very happy with the state of the band. Our frontman did practically nothing besides make BS suggestions, and our newer guitarist is a complete ***hole. The only person I like in this band is our rhythm guitarist, which is weird because our frontman is the one who started the band and I knew him the best. They also didnt focus much, and went off every few minutes to do random things.

    Also, our frontman insisted that we have an anti-american theme to our band, which I didnt like, and they being all skateboarders, pretty much want this band to be "sk8ter punk".

    Oh, and we dont even have a drummer.

    Sorry bout the rant.

    Do you think I should quit, or see if it improves?
  2. Trevorus


    Oct 18, 2002
    Urbana, IL
    do you want to be there when the band falls apart, or do you want to wait to witness it?

    'nuf said.
  3. if you can have fun, then I'd say to try and go for it.

    if you want to play, try and change their veiw point of what is happening, i.e. whine about not being focussed and things. challenge your front man.

    if not, leave. they ain't worth it. :)
  4. id stick around and wait to get a drummer and see wat his attitude is towards it and maybe he can help u change their minds a little if he is thinkin like u.
  5. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Stick with it. Things will get better.
  6. Vince S.

    Vince S. Resident Former Bassist

    Jan 24, 2003
    We are having another practice session tomorrow, so I ll see how that goes.
  7. Like Munj. said, stick with it. It might take six or seven years to wade through all the frontmen, drummers,singers, soundmen, keyboard players, girl friends, ten to twenty of the perfect (at the time) bass amps and basses before you have the perfect band. I'd say if after seven years your still not satisfied, work on it another ten to twenty years. Trust me you will sooner or later be in a band that will make you happy. Hang in there my man.
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Jeez, jb, when I read your first sentence, I thought, "What th'? Of all people, jb doesn't get it?" Then I read the rest. That's the part I forgot to put in.
  9. wulf


    Apr 11, 2002
    Oxford, UK
    Maybe you should hit him with a big word like plagiarism - although that would probably be a little highbrow if you've painted an accurate picture of him.

    What does the first guitarist think? Does he prefer the bass chugging root notes or moving around a bit more? If you get on with him, maybe you could hang out together a bit. Try it both ways, record it and listen back to see what sounds best. If that sets the pair of you on a different track to the others then so be it.

    At the moment, it doesn't sound like you've got a band. It sounds like you've got a bunch of people seeing if the chemistry works... and overall it doesn't, although you've found a guitarist you kind of get on with and could perhaps work together with in the future.

  10. Vince S.

    Vince S. Resident Former Bassist

    Jan 24, 2003
    Well, no practice today.

    I dont really know the lead guitarist (the new one) that well, and our personalities seem to clash, as in, we're not getting along very well. And, our frontman, lead, and rhythm guitarist are all best friends, and I just kind of got pulled into the band, so I feel very awkward there, like I dont fit in at all.

    And like I said before, they are skateboarders, which is like a big "classification" in high school, and Im not, so when they go skateboarding and doing skateboard related things FOR the band, I cant join in.
  11. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts

    Since you're the odd man out socially you will likely be odd man out in ALL respects :rolleyes:

    Since you're just starting out, there's no $$$ involved yet. If you don't get along with the guys AND don't agree on the music there really is ZERO reason for you to hang around.
  12. The exact truth, good point there brianrost.
  13. btw Solidus, Munji and jb were being very sarcastic, in case you didn't pick up on it.

    Personally I can't even believe you're asking anyone what to do in this situation. What possible reason do you have to stay??!? It sounds horrible in every respect.
  14. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    From the sounds of it, its not even a band, just a couple of guys hanging out, jamming. So, don't sweat it. Show up and play, and if you're having a good time, keep doing it. If the time is more aggravating than rewarding, then pay your polite respects as you walk out the door to do something a bit more satisfying and productive.
  15. FunkySpoo

    FunkySpoo Supporting Member

    Feb 6, 2002
    Don't waste your time. Get the hell out. Start your own band.
  16. lamarjones

    lamarjones Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    try to find some people serious about music instead of image, if that is what you are looking for.
  17. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
  18. Selta


    Feb 6, 2002
    Pacific Northwet
    Total fanboi of: Fractal Audio, AudiKinesis Cabs, Dingwall basses
    Sheeze, I'da been outta there within a 1/2 hour of the first practice. No drummer?? I almost need one to play descent. The whole idea just sounds immature...I say go find/start a REAL band, and when you're the one getting the gigs and such, maybe they'll rethink their logic (but prolly not).

  19. Edwcdc

    Edwcdc I call shotgun!

    Jul 21, 2003
    Columbia MD USA
    Getting started playing in bands can be a blast. When I was younger I used to love jamming with new people as much as I could. If I was you I wouldn't get too hung up on this experience. You are young and have a lot of time to get things going. Try to find a good drummer(or a bad one if that is all that is available) and work from there. Its a lot easier to find a guitar player. Maybe practice with these guys one more time, if it doesn't improve, make sure you get all of your stuff when you leave.


    Mar 12, 2003
    USA, PNW
    Hum, It probably wouldn't hurt to buy a skateboard to put in your gig bag. This will give you a level playing field. Are these intellectuals or what? I can't pass judgement on the Chemistry on Technical makeup of this band, but I can say this: If you're not happy, get out!
    If they're not happy, get out! Don't get your hopes up on your first band, keep trying till you get a group that clicks together.