Barefaced cab question?

4k is guitary high. It is generally enough, tweeters value is more in the better dispersion than how high it goes, the Super 12 has pretty good dispersion alone.

 

Yep, Super 15.

 

I get a pretty nice pick tone with my S15. It's bright enough to cut through, but it still tames my very bright sounding Jaguar.

I advice you to email Barefaced, they'll know what you need

 

I had exactly the same problem, could not decide tweeter or no tweeter, but Alex was super helpful and said get the tweeterless version, even thought its cheaper!!

SO i took his advice, and have a Super 12 ( no tweeter ) on order, cant wait!!!

Dont get me wrong thought it took me about 2 weeks trying to decide haha

 

There's no need for response higher than 6kHz, a midrange driver handles that range perfectly well. There is need for off-axis response above 2kHz, even tens don't do that well, a midrange driver does. There's no sonic reason to use a woofer and tweeter, only an economic one: tweeters cost about half what midranges do.

 

Super 12 doesnt have a mid range though does it? would that matter?

 

To oversimplify if your tone is mid shy, as in you play with flats with the high EQ way down, you don't need to go higher than what a woofer alone will handle. If you run round wounds with your high EQ boosted you probably will want a midrange driver.

 

mmm! I run rounds with all mids and treble boosted... noooo, Alex said not to go for the big twin ( with the mid range) and to get the super 12

 

altho i suppose most normal cabs you can buy dont have a mid range do they so...

 

Bear in min what you think frequencies sound like is probably wrong, after years of false specs. The validity of tweeter + woofer is in the fact you are used to hearing it, a seperation of an octave or two between them means the tweeter is a distinct tone of its own, rather than a tone from the cab that has lots of top.

 

Perhaps a drive to his shop to try some cabs is in order.

 

He has the one month return policy if he is miles off.

 

ahhh i see! See now im doubting my choice of not getting a tweeter haha! But alex said i would not need a tweeter, i play a GK amp.
Apologies if im hijacking the thread, im sure the OP will find this all useful!!

 

There's a subjective statement if I ever saw one.

Personally, I think treble response matters, so I opted for the Big Twin T. Good to have all these options.

 

I didn't say you need a tweeter; IMO almost no one does. But if you're boosting high EQ it means you're in search of frequencies that a woofer alone won't deliver, so a midrange driver is likely called for.

Not if you've actually measured the bandwidth of the electric bass, and heard what electric bass sounds like with the upper end rolled off above 6kHz. IME if you don't have response above 6kHz all you have to lose is the hiss.

 

In slightly more practical terms: If a cone driver will do the highs you are after with some boost, then it isn't the tweeter highs you are after, a midrange will do them without boost, the tweeter is way higher than a cone will o even with boost.

 

Mr Foxen how well does your super 15 cope with the highs??

 

It doesn't get upset by them. As I say, it is about equivalent to a not especially toppy (but not dark) guitar cab.