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Bass Amp simulations (VST)

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by BwanaDust, Apr 17, 2019.


  1. BwanaDust

    BwanaDust Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2019
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Lincoln Learning Solutions - Lincoln Park Performing Arts Center
    While there seem to be a few fairly good guitar sims out there these days, I've yet to find anything for bass that was great. The Amplitude Ampeg stuff is just awful. The Overloud Mark bass plug is not much better. Most guitar sims have one or two bass patches and that's it.

    The only dedicated one that I found usuable was the Kuassa Cerebus bass. You can load cab IRs and I've actually managed to get a decent sound out of it. Normally I just go DI or mic a cab.

    Anyone else have any luck with these?
     
  2. Mcgiver69

    Mcgiver69

    Sep 28, 2005
    England
  3. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    I use Amplitube and like it a lot. Very versatile.
     
  4. BwanaDust

    BwanaDust Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2019
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Lincoln Learning Solutions - Lincoln Park Performing Arts Center
    I just don't think it sounds anything like an Ampeg. I've got a b15 and theirs is nothing like it.
     
  5. BwanaDust

    BwanaDust Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2019
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Lincoln Learning Solutions - Lincoln Park Performing Arts Center
    Thanks! I'll check them out!
     
  6. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    i haven't tried the B15 sim. i use the trace elliot and acoustic 360 ones quite a bit for bass. i kinda don't care how much they sound like the originals. they produce bass sounds that are usable in mixes.
     
  7. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    if you have a B15, mic it. done. ;) if you need to have a quiet recording situation, the REDDI DI is a good tone match from what i've heard.
     
  8. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
  9. BwanaDust

    BwanaDust Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2019
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Lincoln Learning Solutions - Lincoln Park Performing Arts Center
    I do most of the time. Or I use an old Demeter Tube DI, which is my all time favorite. I am mainly curious about what's out there now.

    I got a bundle from IK multimedia a few years ago (Unfortunately it was all 32 bit), and I tried the Acoustic and Trace. Didn't mind them at all. But I really don't like the guitar Sims in Amplitude. And I can't justify getting into the whole UAD thing. I've got some nice hardware (2 6176s), but they can keep their plugins and their Apollos. I'm not saying they're not good, but they really don't hold a candle to the Prism AD/DA we have at work, or the Orpheus I have at home.

    Thanks for your input. One of the students where I work has a REDD unit. I might swap with him for a few days to see what it sounds like.

    Most of the time I just use the direct sound from bass, but I would like to try something else.

    The Kuassa Cerebus is really nice.
     
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  10. I use the ignite amps stuff as well, not only the shb-1 but I pair it with their tube power stage emulation and then into your IR of choice. If it wasn't so expensive you could also try the helix native plug in.
     
  11. Weberman

    Weberman

    Apr 8, 2014
    Nilbog, Ohio
    I use UAD plugins. The bass amp sims are very good, and play well with their other plugins (compressor, EQ, and tape make a pretty good recording chain). You must have their hardware, though. The Ampeg plugins are made by Brainworx for UA, so it is possible they might release other formats in the future. In the meantime, they are exclusive to the UAD platform.

     
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  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    The best patch on the Amplitube Ampeg plugin is the SVT 4 Pro.
     
  13. matante

    matante

    Nov 3, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I'm one of those guys who sees a bass amp as more of a limitation than as part of the instrument. The exception to this is when I want to emulate a '60s sound with flats, foam at the bridge, and a tube amp sound with a boxy cab. Most of the time I get the sound I want by plugging straight in, adding compression and EQ, and that's it. It seems to me that those sims are just that, a certain type of compression, certain type of EQ, and some HPF/LPF to emulate the high and low cutoffs of a speaker cabinet. I don't use overdrive but if I did I'd rather get it from a pedal.
     
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  14. Dirk Diggler

    Dirk Diggler Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Anytown USA
    I have been extremely impressed by Scuffham amps and Bias FX. These are made for guitar but work great with Bass. With Scuffham you can use your own IR's so that part is great.
    Unlike physical amps you won't risk hurting anything with low frequency input, and no speakers to worry about.
    Dirk
     
  15. BwanaDust

    BwanaDust Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2019
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Lincoln Learning Solutions - Lincoln Park Performing Arts Center
    You hit the nail on the head Dirk. I have been using Sgear, since they offered it with the Slate Everything Bundle. I have a bunch of IR cabs and use them with it. Sounds great. What doesn't sound great is the Overloud THU Slate Edition bundle that they offer instead of Sgear. But that's another story.

    I ended up buying Sgear, because when you compare it to the THU, you can see what a joke the THU is. It's a buggy demo that has been marketed most deceptively. Thanks for the comment!
     
  16. Solude

    Solude

    Sep 16, 2017
    To each their own. I love TH3 but would admit it took a while to get 'my sound' just right. Neural Darkglass is also great. Helix Native just didn't do anything for me. Amplitube was problematic when I tried it.
     
  17. NorseBear0903

    NorseBear0903 Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2018
    There are a lot of great modeling programs out there now. Neural Darkglass and STL Tonality and my top 2 right now. The UADs are also excellent
     
  18. Bolsyo

    Bolsyo

    Oct 18, 2015
    Norway
    Wall of Sound plugin from Two Notes. It's basically a cab-sim software, but it also has a poweramp section where you can choose tubes and saturation. Paired with some Ampeg cabs and a nice multi-mic setup in the plugin, it sounds way better than any regular ampsim software I've tried.
     
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  19. georg_f

    georg_f

    Apr 16, 2014
    Vienna
    Ampeg SVX is is my favorite.
    But mostly just the SVT-4 Pro model
     
  20. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    That's my favorite of theirs, too.
     

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