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Bass amp to double as a small full-range amp

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by belzebass, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. belzebass


    Feb 21, 2012
    I'm wondering if there's a bass amp (combo or 2-piece) that would be used as a bass amp (in 100 to 250 watt range), and that could be used sometimes as full-range speaker for smallish half-acoustic gigs to be used with a mixer for a drum machine, bass, acoustic guitar, the vox, the whole nine yards. So something capable to deliver a full-range sound (lows and highs).

    Something rather compact, too. Like a 112 or 210. 15 inches are not really subway-friendly :)

    Is it even possible? What would you recommend?

  2. belzebass


    Feb 21, 2012
    And newer bass amps that have an "aux in" or "mp3 in", like TC Electronics, can they do the job?
  3. AstroSonic

    AstroSonic Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2009
    rural New Mexico
    Most of the combo's available today have an aux input. Note that you can also use the bass guitar input with the appropriate adapter. Unfortunately, most heads seem not to have an aux input.

    The major challenge is in finding a combo with a full range speaker. Most will exhibit a gap between the woofer and the horn, especially 15's. A combo with two 10's and a horn would be your best bet. That will push you up-market a bit, but the improvements are useful. For voice and the drum machine the extra power is especially useful.
  4. wagdog


    Mar 20, 2000
    Der Waffle Haus
    I would look at the Phil Jones combo gear. Small and light and very close to being instrument universal.
  5. What is your budget?
  6. strictlybass_ic

    strictlybass_ic Mediocrity is a journey

    Jan 9, 2014
    Northern Indiana
    Most any modern speaker cabinet will be fine. In my practice space I've taken our PA head (with acoustic guitar and vocals signals) and connected it to...

    Avatar B210 Special
    Avatar SB112
    fEARful 12/6 (no tweeter)
    Kustom 18" sub (with horn)

    All of them have been just fine. He actually loves the ancient Kustom folded horn PA sub the most. He'd take that to every gig if it weren't such a monstrous pain in the butt to move around. :p

    You can use most any amplifier but I would lean strongly towards something with an aux in (preamp/EQ bypass) and you'll want a separate mixing board of some sort to gather and process the signals.
  7. Brother Goose

    Brother Goose The Process IS the Reward! Supporting Member

    Dec 4, 2013
    Syracuse NY
    God Is Love
    Love me some old school Peavey Keyboard amps- they get a great bass sound. Make sure you have castors or a hand truck- they aren't to be trifled with where weight in concerned.

    Head over to the local pawn shop and get two while the supplies last!
  8. elgecko


    Apr 30, 2007
    Anasleim, CA
    A powered PA speaker maybe?
  9. Brother Goose

    Brother Goose The Process IS the Reward! Supporting Member

    Dec 4, 2013
    Syracuse NY
    God Is Love
    I've had issues in the past with running full range inputs thorough horn loaded cabs- Avatar/SWR etc- as in the treble sounds in the horn and all the booty in the paper cones. User error?
  10. UncleBalsamic


    Jul 8, 2007
    Bill Fitzmaurice Jack 10 would seem to fit the bill (depending on taste &c.) Jack

    edit: amp can be whatever you like I suppose. Markbass LMII/IIIs are pretty damn flat for what it's worth (though again taste is factor)
  11. strictlybass_ic

    strictlybass_ic Mediocrity is a journey

    Jan 9, 2014
    Northern Indiana
    I found I had to dial back the tweeter (via the cab's attenuator) and cut the bass slightly at the mixer (especially on the acoustic guitar) to compensate for the cab's natural tendencies. It's not exactly a hi-fi sound, and I'm sure a legit PA would do much better, but it sound as good or better than a lot of the house PA's where we play. :rolleyes:
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  12. belzebass


    Feb 21, 2012
    At around 400 euros. I prefer buying used.

    The primary use will be a traditional bass amp, so no PA speaker.
  13. BigBobbyBass


    Jan 23, 2015
    On a budget, I believe peavey has a vyper that fills the bill. Bass and guitar models, various inputs and outputs, full range speaker, etc..
  14. MR PC

    MR PC Inactive

    Dec 1, 2007
    Try looking at the Carvin Bass Combos..lots of features you are asking for.
  15. cfsporn


    Aug 20, 2011
    New York City
    When I'm cleaning my house, I sometimes play music through my Walkabout halfstack to keep my will to live alive.
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  16. bebass

    bebass Sho Me Music Commercial User

    Sep 3, 2006
    Bolivar, Missouri
    Authorized dealer for Bergantino, Dingwall, Genzler, Phil Jones Bass, Cort, Traynor
    A small mixer, tube bass pre, and a full range powered PA cab would be an approach. Like another poster suggested, on a budget that Peavey Vyper would probably do the trick.

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