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Bass and Guitar Rig

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ScoobyGoo, Feb 14, 2006.


  1. ScoobyGoo

    ScoobyGoo

    Feb 10, 2006
    I know I know, its a bass forum, but no guitarist is going to be able to help me with a suitable bass rig lol...

    I'm looking for a solid versatile combo amp or head/cab setup that would be play both my Bass and my guitar. I'm not very experienced when it comes to amps and stuff, I only have a small crate practice amp and I can't decide which amp to invest in first..so I came up with the brilliant idea of having a setup that can play both! Any ideas? I'm not even sure if this idea is easily possible or ridiculously retarded, so I'm sorry if i sound like an ass..

    Help, as always, is greatly appreciated! :help:
     
  2. jokerjkny

    jokerjkny

    Jan 19, 2002
    NY / NJ / PA
    hmm...

    honestly, not much in terms of modern day gear can do both the electric guitar and bass justice.

    the best thing to do would be to use your guitar amp for your guitar, but then go DI into the house PA w/ your bass, and use the stage monitors to hear your bass.

    i regularly double as a guitarist and bassist, and its worked great for me.
     
  3. ii-v

    ii-v

    Mar 27, 2005
    SLC, UT
    I think it depends on what you are going for. I am anxious to get my EA stuff as the website claims it works well for Bass, Keyboard and Guitar. I like Guitars a great deal run throught Fender old style bass amps. I do not know how EA will stack up to that, but I am anxious to find out.

     
  4. Razor

    Razor

    Sep 22, 2002
    Dallas
    Hmmm... I agree with Joker. That's probably the easiest way to do it.

    Although, I have had a good amount of luck, with dedicated processors, in using a Peavey bass combo amp here at home for both of these tasks. I've got an old Basic 60 (60 watt) combo amp that I use for both. I have a guitar pre (ADA MP-1) and a bass pre (Ampeg SVP-Pro) that I plug into the "power in" section on the amp...then just use the pre for whatever application I need. The combo is loaded with a single 12" driver that works well IMHO for either.

    There have also been times when I didn't have the dedicated pre's and just went straight into the amp with either the guitar or the bass...depending on how you EQ the combo's pre...it'll get the job done for lower than stage volume practicing.
     
  5. Daytona955i

    Daytona955i

    Feb 17, 2005
    Albany, NY
    I know some people that use tube amps for both.

    Surprising the Mesa 400+ doesn't sound bad with a guitar playing through it, and I once saw a bass player using a new Crate BV300 guitar head, he liked the slight distortion channel I guess.
     
  6. Depends on what kind of guitar playing, I usually plug my taylor 314ceL7 acoustic into the edens at work over anything else.
     
  7. Depends on what kind of guitar playing, I usually plug my taylor 314ceL7 acoustic into the edens at work over anything else.
     
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I'd say pretty much any good bass amp and cab will sound good with guitar when properly EQ'd. You'll probably need some kind of effect to get a good tube distortion sound, though, because even if you could overdrive the bass amp with the guitar, it's going to be at an excrutiating level. This is assuming you buy a bass amp with minimum gigging power (which I used to say was 300 watts, but now say 600 watts).

    I play guitars through my WT-800 with 210 plus 115 cabinets, and it sounds great, but a bit sterile. Add a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver, though, and it just kills.

    So, bottom line, I'd get a good bass amp, because few, if any, guitar amps sound worth a dang with a bass at the input.
     
  9. For years I used to use a Peavey TKO 1x15 combo for guitar. It did an alright job, though it was nothing compared to the tone of a tube head.

    As it is right now I'm using a guitar amp for my bass (Boogie Rectifier)....but that's only until I get a proper bass head.

    I've found that the largest problem with mixing rigs is the speakers. Guitar speakers don't effeciantly produce bass frequencies, and bass speakers don't have the tone of a guitar speaker....they aren't as loud and lack the growl/bark of an overdriven guitar speaker.
     
  10. Suburban

    Suburban

    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    Acoustic Images Clarus into an Accugrove Tri110 or Tri112.
    That works.

    There may be other heads that do the same trick, but most pre's are much too specific for bass or guitar.
     
  11. brothernewt

    brothernewt Some people call me the stormtrooper of love...

    Apr 13, 2004
    Happyrock, OR
    Older Ampeg V-4 and a matching 4x12 cab. Pretty good for both.
     
  12. fender bassman........used to have an early 80's fender bassman rig (head and 4x12) that i used solely for guitar....


    :edit: i may be off on the year now that i think about it...
     
  13. chaosMK

    chaosMK

    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    A Mesa/Boogie D-180 tube amp would be a good choice.
     
  14. wolfs

    wolfs

    Jan 18, 2006
    nyc
    Just don't try to use a guitar combo for playing bass through unless it's at a really low volume. As stated by others, I think a bass amp plus an od/dist effect for guitar will work fine for the time being (since I'm assuming that you want one amp for both guitar and bass because you're trying to minimize spending)...
     
  15. Excellent choice, if you can find one. Nice bass tone, similar to a 400+ - warm, rich, vintage sort of vibe, plugged into input 2. Plug into input 1, mess with knobs, and you get a great classic hard rock/proto-metal heavy guitar tone.
     
  16. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    Fender Bassman (probably a Super, a 100, or a 135).
     
  17. ScoobyGoo

    ScoobyGoo

    Feb 10, 2006
    A D-180 sounds like it would be great, I tried looking around but couldn't find anything on them..any help?
    I don't think I'd be able to find an Ampeg V-4/cab either...but I think i'm going to hold off on amp buying for a month or so just to hope that I can find either of those options..I was hoping to not get a combo, but it sounds like the Fender Bassman will do me justice, its available everywhere and I think it'll sound right with my guitar as long as I put my guitar through an OD pedal..so it sounds like a solid backup plan

    thanks for the help guys!
     
  18. LarryO

    LarryO

    Apr 4, 2004
    Silverface fender bassman 135, THD hotplate, 4x10 bass cab.
     
  19. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    yes, fender bassman with a tubescreamer type pedal in front for your guitar.
     
  20. ScoobyGoo

    ScoobyGoo

    Feb 10, 2006
    If anyone is curious, I plan on playing my Epiphone Casino through the Bass Rig, which gives that Late Beatles tone..I figure an OD would be perfect for that feedbacky overdrive like on Revolution