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Bass and the electric drums - yuck.

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by Oren Hudson, Sep 28, 2016.


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  1. Oren Hudson

    Oren Hudson

    Dec 25, 2007
    Gastonia, NC
    Previously played in a band that the band leader was also the drummer. He used electronic drums. At a gig, we began a song that stars with the driving bass on E joined by the floor tom pounding. The stupid drummer had tuned his electronics incorrectly so that we were fighting each other. Everybody looked at me thinking that I was out of tune. No way Jose. I hate electronic drums, particularly when the drummer is clueless. :(
     
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  2. dbase

    dbase Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 3, 2008
    South Jersey, USA..
    Was it one of these?
    sideman.
     
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  3. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    I disagree. If done tastefully, they can be very useful. Band practice was last night with our sub drummer who has played with us before with acoustic drums, but plays so loud the guitar and I can't hear each other. He brought a set of borrowed Rolands to try out. Once we got the levels set and the EQ right, it was great. I particularly liked the kick drum. It was tight and well defined. And, I could hear it easily.
    I will agree, though, that if not set up correctly, it could be a problem.
     
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  4. 10cc

    10cc

    Oct 28, 2013
    Had a drummer once that would use just the kick drum trigger. Everything else was acoustic. The great part besides a good kick drum tone was that he didn't have a big kick drum so his kit looked ridiculous without a kick drum present.
     
  5. peterpalmieri

    peterpalmieri Supporting Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Babylon, NY
    I play in one particular band where we use electric drums and no amps on stage just monitors, it is awesome. We have absolute control over volumes, your particular case is a matter of user error.
     
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  6. Hahaha

    Hahaha

    Sep 26, 2003
    Olympia, WA USA
    There is a casino in town that has a large brick wall opposite the band. The only bands that sound good in that room are the ones that use electronic drums. Live drums sound terrible there.

    I didn't care for electronic drums twenty or thirty years ago, but they have improved since then. I like them now, especially on small stages.
     
  7. SteveC

    SteveC Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    North Dakota
    The drummer I play with these days uses a Roland TD-30 and nicer pads and cymbals. When you know what you're doing and get it set right (especially separate direct outs for each pad/trigger not summed stereo - that was a HUGE difference for him) and someone who can play them (just like acoustic really) they can be really good - especially in a IEM/DI situation. We do it at church and for a cover band. Great control over everything. He was a bit hesitant at first but is really liking it now - as are the rest of us.
     
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  8. abarson

    abarson

    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    Our previous drummer had a Roland kit, which I hated because they seemed to mis-trigger and ruin the beat. On a regular trap set we never had that issue.
    I think he finally found the problem, but by then we'd moved on to our new drummer.
     
  9. Bullitt5135

    Bullitt5135

    Nov 16, 2010
    SE Michigan
    My drummer has the top-of-the-line Roland kit, and for the most part, I prefer it over an acoustic kit. Master volume control is a wonderful thing. The problem I'm having is the drummer likes to change the "voice" of his kit from songs to song. Sometimes it's the the "Rock" kit, sometimes it's the "Garage" kit, sometimes it's the "Reggae" kit, etc. The kits aren't mixed and EQ'd the same, so some songs sound great, and others are either too loud or too quiet. At a recent gig, my daughter noticed that the snare dropped out drastically on some songs. In some cases, my bass tone gets buried by the drums. I wish he would just dial in a kit and leave it alone.
     
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  10. zontar

    zontar

    Feb 19, 2014
    J-5
    It depends on the drum set, the settings, the drummer & the sound system.
    I saw a student band recital where one of the bands had a drummer with an electronic set--the guy was good,, but he was playing trough an old tinny guitar amp--which may have worked for some guitar applications--but ruined the drum sound--so you need a good amp/pa/something for live performances (& possibly recording)
     
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  11. SteveC

    SteveC Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    North Dakota
    Yeah, if they all aren't set that would suck. Our drummer uses the studio kit 99% of the time and doesn't change mid-gig.

    Definitely. We go DI to a big FOH/IEM system. Sounds amazing - especially when you have individual outs for each pad.
     
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  12. First drummer in the band I've been playing with for the last five years used triggers - he wouldn't hit loud enough because he was so used to playing in churches too. Great drummer, but yeah.
     
  13. JJR58

    JJR58 Dirty Birds Supporting Member


    Similar scenario myself back in PDX some time ago.
    Club had no amps, not allowed to use your own amps, just the PA/monitors, electronic drums.
    Best sound ever for a live show, As Peter stated, full control over volume/mix, the house gear was top notch, and so was the sound man.
     
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