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Bass Cab for a Marshall 45/100

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Frome, May 29, 2020.

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  1. May 29, 2020 #1
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    Hey all, new guy here. This forum has been a valuable resource for me as a lurker, thanks!
    I play guitar so all of my gear is focused on that. I just put together a home recording studio and am looking to lay down bass tracks. I have a Rupert Neve 5017 that works wonderfully for direct tracking but it also allows me to record both direct and miced sources, phase correct and compress.
    I picked up a Fender Player Series bass and I do like it with the exception of the pups, will be swapping those out. Now I'm on to an amp. Been researching a bunch and was leaning towards a TH350. Then I thought wait a minute I have a Marshall 45/100 replica (Germino) that is a 100 watt bass circuit which I'm sure many of you know is Marshall's take on the Fender Bassman. I plugged in through a 4/12 at low volume and love what I hear. So all that to say I am looking for a suitable cab to go with it. I'm limited in that I'd have to go with one that's wide enough to allow the amp to sit atop. It's 29" wide. I also thought about laying a cab on it's side but I'd prefer something that fits. Any suggestions?
    Apologies for the novel of a first post!
     
  2. May 29, 2020 #2
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    Anybody?
     
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  3. May 29, 2020 #3
    basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    Northern KY
    Cab fan, hobbyist
    An older Ampeg 215 would sound good I bet. Or 115.
     
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  4. May 29, 2020 #4
    Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    With only 100W you are going to want a really efficient speaker. The only current models I can think of that are 29" wide are going to be 412s, and I don't know of anyone currently making a 412 for bass.

    One of the Greenboy authorized builders used to make a wide version of the Bassic. I think it was called the Bassic Tube. I don't know how wide it was, I can no longer find a link for the model. I would suggest two for max efficiency.

    You could also run a Dually on it's side, which is essentially equivalent to a pair of Bassics.

    You could hunt down an old Sunn 2000S cab. I believe they are 30" wide.
     
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  5. May 30, 2020 #5
    Downunderwonder

    Downunderwonder

    Aug 26, 2009
    New Zealand
    For studio use I suggest the opposite so he can crank the tubes and get his monies worth without bugging the neighbours or generating distracting rattles.

    Not that there would be anything wrong with mic'ing an E140 in 4ft³ with two 6.25'' 4''Ø ports. Could give away the DI track altogether. But it would be loud.
     
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  6. May 30, 2020 #6
    Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    Your right, I was thinking more for live performance. For recording, IMHO the 412 will actually work fine for recording as long the OP keeps the volume at a safe level. If it is desired to crank the amp up enough to get output drive from the tubes, 100W is still going to be pretty loud in a studio environment.
     
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  7. May 30, 2020 #7
    flatwound62p

    flatwound62p

    Apr 24, 2017
    Australia
    Studio or stage use? If it’s studio a Fender Bassman Neo 115 is pretty close at 26”. Voiced to match a traditional Bassman head and not super efficient.

    What do you have in the way of outputs on the head, ohms-wise?

    Are you chasing a modern sound or something old school?
     
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  8. May 30, 2020 #8
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    The ones I'm seeing aren't wide enough for the head to sit on at 29"
     
  9. May 30, 2020 #9
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    Makes sense on the efficient speaker, Greg Germino suggested the same. I have a really nice StoneAge 4x12 that sits unused. I thought about putting bass speakers in it but obviously that cab was built with guitar in mind, not sure if it would be ideal for bass.
    Really starting to think it will be two 1x cabs.
    I'll check the Dually. Thanks!
     
  10. May 30, 2020 #10
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    It will be strictly studio use and the 45/100 does sound glorious when cranked with guitar, curious what it would do for bass. So inefficient for studio the opposite for stage makes sense.
     
  11. May 30, 2020 #11
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    I did look at a Bassman cab and it remains an option.

    8 & 16 ohms

    I've always gone for a more old school vibe. On the guitar side I have plexis and Victoria Bassman and a 5e3.

    That said I'm not opposed to modern tones either. I'm not so good at classifying the tones I hear in my head but my ear knows what it likes:)
     
  12. May 30, 2020 #12
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    Appreciate all of the input!

    Anyone strongly opposed to repurposing my StoneAge 4x12? It is and extremely well built unit. Here are the stats from the manufacturer:
    4X12B

    30 w x 29 1/4 h x 14 d

    We build our 4x12B with the highest grade 5/8" (11 ply ) Russian void- less Baltic Birch throughout, including the back panel. Clear, tight, articulate vintage BW tone that will hold true when you really need it to. We use poplar for all cleats (bracing) for baffles & rear panels, an upgrade over the pine/fir that was used on original BW era cabs. Casters are easily removable, and included.
     
  13. May 30, 2020 #13
    6thplanet

    6thplanet Supporting Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    Indiana
    How are you building skills? A one 15" cab would be pretty easy to whip up with the width you want. There's a couple raw drivers for sale in the classifieds. Not comfortable building yourself, someone close by could do it for you.
     
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  14. May 30, 2020 #14
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    I'd be comfortable doing it myself it's just time that's a factor. Maybe I'll check out Mojotone, I think they'd build me something.
     
  15. May 30, 2020 #15
    6thplanet

    6thplanet Supporting Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    Indiana
    Where are you located
     
  16. May 30, 2020 #16
    buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    It's for studio use. You can make a shelf or other support for the head. I would think for studio use you would prefer something with less volume.
     
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  17. May 30, 2020 #17
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    I'm in northeast PA
     
  18. May 30, 2020 #18
    Frome

    Frome

    May 29, 2020
    I could certainly live with a setup like that for the studio. Or I could even sit a cab next to the 4x12 the head currently sits on and just use a longer speaker cable to connect when playing bass. It doesn't necessarily have to sit on top of a cab. I am the type that likes it right visually as well however.
     
  19. May 30, 2020 #19
    6thplanet

    6thplanet Supporting Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    Indiana
    Wish I was closer. Surely someone in your area could do it, if you really want a custom piece. Like Buldog said, the head could be shelved, freeing you to use whatever standard cab available. Otherwise, I love building cabs, you have to love paying for shipping;)
     
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  20. May 30, 2020 #20
    buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    I understand, but the negatives of a large, too loud cab seem to far outweigh that issue. The less volume the cab puts out, the easier it would be to work with the advantage of the tubes.
     
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