Bass Cab

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by daddyvettes, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. daddyvettes

    daddyvettes Guest

    Apr 25, 2012
    I have a small Hartke 2x10 that I would like to get more punch out of. Of course I'm aware of cab design and mis match issues but I'm a rebel. Can't I just put 2-200 watt speakers in the darn thing and if it needs venting just drill a 3 inch hole in the back?
  2. Sure you can - you can do anything you wish.

    However, will it make sound - yes

    Will it sound good - unknown
    Will the speakers get damaged - unknown
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  3. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    You can. Who's to stop you?

    It is a roll of an N-sided pair of dice as to whether you get your money's worth in improvement.
    Here is Plan B: sell it.
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  4. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
    You could also spend a few hours online reading about speaker cab design and learn how to make a cab you'll enjoy, rather than just make one for the hell of it.

    But by all means DIY it up.
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  5. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    I would get the proper Port Specs and port it out the front and throw two Eminence Delta-lite 10's in it. or just grab an Avatar B210 Neo.
  6. iualum


    Apr 9, 2004
    Of course you can. Just do it, Johnny Reb! :thumbsup:

    Avatar has Faital Pro 10PR300s for only $83 a pop :hyper:. Less than 1/2 price! Excellent drivers for a pittance.
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  7. What do you mean by 'punch'? Do you just want more loudness capability, or 'punch' in the tone sense? Are you sure that you can achieve that goal with two 10's? Of the commonly available cab formats, 210 cabs are the most likely to leave a player underpowered. Maybe just sell that cab and buy something that will work for sure.
  8. BazzTard

    BazzTard Inactive

    either add another identical 2x10, or sell it and get a 4x10.

    The extra volume you yearn for is acheived by larger speaker area, and /or by lowering the total impedence of your cabs, so adding another 8 Ohm cab making a 4 Ohm load or buying a 4x10 4 Ohm cab will both add volume.
  9. daddyvettes

    daddyvettes Guest

    Apr 25, 2012
    Thanks for your input. I guess one thing I'm leaving out is the ability to put a smaller cab on a tilt back amp stand so the speakers aren't pointing at my knees. The 4x10's and beefy 2x10's are too deep for a tilt stand. I'm trying to hear myself over a keyboard player who's constantly relearning songs every gig.
  10. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Try this layout with two 210's of ~same type. No tilt-back needed!

  11. Rick James

    Rick James Inactive

    Feb 24, 2007
    New Jersey
    If you don't make sure that the new speakers can actually play louder than the old you could be worse off. You can't tell that from the watt ratings. And if you just drill a hole in a cab you'll probably make it worse. The science always works whether you believe in it or not.
    Stack two 2x10s vertical. Or put one 2x10 on a stand. You can lift a cab two feet without losing any low frequency coupling with the floor. It might sem like there is less low end but that's only because you can hear the mids and highs better with it lifted.
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  12. Yes you could. Should you? Probably not.

    Personally I think you'd be better off if you sold of the Hartke and bought a used Yorkville 210 for $200, if you could find one.
  13. Dug2

    Dug2 Guest

    Sep 24, 2011
    go with this one. play it safe
  14. daddyvettes

    daddyvettes Guest

    Apr 25, 2012
    All great advice. Btw I have an SWR 4x10 Marcus miller cab. It is a great cab with plenty of power. My jazz bass through a sansamp di then into my markbass sounds great. Still points at my legs at small gigs though. Sometimes I'll stack the Hartke 2x10 on it when I feel cocky.
  15. iualum


    Apr 9, 2004
    ^^^ Put the 410 on a stand. Raise it up.
  16. tjh


    Mar 22, 2006
    .. do you have a Transporter or an XL model?

    ... and as mentioned, describe what you want in terms of 'punch' ... I have had several of the 210XL's, and a sealed 210 with alum cones is pretty much all 'punch' by my definition .. especially with GK heads ... not going to be real deep sounding, but with a lot of (low-high) mids present ... and best sounding at lower-mid volume levels in smaller scenarios due to limited 'projection' ... also not designed for extreme power handling ...

    ... so which of the above design features intended for this cabinet do you wish to defeat? ... if more than one, sounds like you need a different cab ... ;)
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  17. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    An empty 210 makes a lightweight 410 cab stand....;) :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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  18. Scottkarch


    Sep 11, 2012
    Your least expensive option is to get a matching 210 cab, used saves even more money. I've recently gone with a 212 cab and it's definitely got more volume than the 210 cab I also have... Maybe pick up a 212 cab from the same manufacturer and same line of cabinets so they may sound similar enough to work well together. My TC Electronic cabs I think work well together and "they" say work well together. 210 alone for small things, 212 for bigger 210+210 for my biggest... and that's all I actually need. YMMV
  19. daddyvettes

    daddyvettes Guest

    Apr 25, 2012
    Yea so I built a hard shell cover for the 4x10 out of luan and 2x2 framing. Upholstered with black felt fabric. Added 10 lbs to the cab. I can slid it off and use it as a stand. Woo hoo!
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