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Bass Choices

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by SWiTCH, Feb 18, 2005.


  1. SWiTCH

    SWiTCH

    Jul 20, 2004
    Hey, I'm a guitarist, but right now I'm looking to buy a bass.
    I need something cheap (under $200 used).
    But I'm looking for a certain sound...
    http://www.nofx.org/albums/errorism/NOFX-Irrationality_Of_Rationality.mp3
    Much like that. Punchy and you can actually hear the strings being plucked. >_>
    But yeah.
    Does anyone know what guitar/amp set ups will help me get this sound?
    Or are they really that different...
     
  2. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    They are VERY, VERY, VERY different.

    FYI - A bass will blow a guitar amp.

    I would look into an essex, Cheap, realiable, good sound for the money.

    With a Good amp and cab, any bass can sound good. A good bass with a bad amp and cab will sound bad.

    EDIT: New strings = Clanky sound when picked.
     
  3. SWiTCH

    SWiTCH

    Jul 20, 2004
    Alrighty.
    Are there different basses for different style of music?
    Like ones better suited for blues, better suited for punk, etc.
    Because I'm looking for a hardcore punk sound and I'd hate to buy something that can't get me that sound.
    Does it all depend on the amp setup?
     
  4. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Not true. Buy a good bass as your intrument is the foundation on which you play. Look for something used...perhaps a used Squire or MIM P-Bass.
     
  5. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Ok, while thats true for the FEEL of the bass, it has no relevance to what I said... A good bass, will still not SOUND good on a Bad amp...

    I have lots of experiance with this issue.
     
  6. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.

    Classic Punk sound is Fender P w/Pick. You can use ANY bass for any music, but P for Punk is standard.
     
  7. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Hmmm...so have I. Tone is in the hands. I get my tone from my bass and the way I play it. I take it you are playing your amp? That's alright, there are a lot of knob fiddlers out there...and I was once one too.

    I have yet to play my bass through any amp and not be able to have it sound good. Maybe not at the desired volume I want (given the power limitations of the amp/cab), but all I need an amp/cab to do is get my bass up to a usable volume.

    Of course there are some variables to the tone with regards to the amp/cab. One amp/cab might produce more mids than another, etc. but that's why they've got tone controls on the amp, right? Yeah, some amps are limited in how much tone control they give...but it would take an extremely lousy amp to make a good bass sound bad.
     
  8. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Oh, man... You havent seen my amp... Its such a shame what basses I put that through...

    But Yes, Not that it sounds "Bad" as much as it doesnt have that "Thump" I like when I play, It doesnt have the acutal "Bass" just low noise... Maybe its just me, but I like to Feel and hear what I'm Playing. It really gets me into the music.
     
  9. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Well, perhaps your falls into that extremely lousy amp category.

    Bad is kind of subjective though. There's bad and then there's bad!!!

    What you may be lacking is power. A higher watt head into a cab that can handle more power. I struggled for years trying to get "my tone" until I realized that it's really all in my hands (my hands + my bass).

    I know what you mean about feeling it. I had so many basses and amps/cabs over the years and went through them like a kid went through candy on halloween. I finally went back to a simple passive P-Bass and an Eden WT-400 head.

    One simple tone control on the P-Bass, and everything set flat on the Eden head. I just plug in and play. No messing around. Ever. Something nice about just hitting a note and making the stage move. That's more about power than tone though.

    After years of trying out different equipment and fiddling around with knobs, I don't even think about it anymore. I just play. There is something to be said for simplicity. It wasn't until I went the "keep it simple" route did I realize that it's all about my playing...not my equipment.

    I wish I'd realized that about 25 years ago. :D
     
  10. adam on bass

    adam on bass Supporting Member

    Feb 4, 2002
    New Braunfels, Texas
    Endorsing Artist: Spector, GK, EMG and D'Addario
  11. Sundogue

    Sundogue

    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    There are a lot of basses that will get you there. But a used Rick or P-Bass with brand new roundwounds would work. You might find a used Rick for $200-$300 (or more) if it's beat up...but a used MIM P-Bass can be had for $150-$250.

    And any amp with sufficient watts and a cab that can handle it. Maybe a 400-500 watt head and a 410 cab?
     
  12. Fat Mike recorded that album with a Danelectro. But for that sound you have in mind, I'd say a P Bass, hands down.
     
  13. I think the Rick would have to be in pieces, maybe even very small pieces, to go for only $200!
     
  14. SWiTCH

    SWiTCH

    Jul 20, 2004
    So, I pretty much completely ignored you guys. I went to the pawn shop and bought the first bass and amp I saw (after giving it a quick try-out of course). It's a Peavey Milestone 2, and a Peavey Microbass amp.
    I dunno if that's supposed to be any good, but I frickin' love my new (used) bass. It sounds great. I tried it out with my band and it was beautiful. So, now I'm debating whether I will play the bass or lead guitar in my band. I've been playing the guitar for 10 years, but the bass is new and extra-fun. Plus it's extremely easy to do vocals when you're playing bass. We shall see.
     
  15. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Bass is a lot more fun (To me) Than guitar... Guitar gets old fast... Real fast.

    Anyways Peavey's arent nearly as bad as most people think they are, and The Micro Bass amp is a Standard "Beginner"/Practice amp.

    Any bass works for any situation, but some are JUST a litle more suited to one, then the other...

    Like You know guitar right? So you know some guitars are better suited to some kinds of music right? Same with bass.
     
  16. SWiTCH

    SWiTCH

    Jul 20, 2004
    Yeah I started out with a Peavey guitar (now I have an SG). You don't realise how much your guitar sucks until you get a new one, so I guess it doesn't really matter in that respect. :)