Bass for the ultimate Versatility

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by David-Adler, Apr 3, 2001.

  1. David-Adler


    Feb 28, 2001
    Bonn, Germany
    Hey everyone,

    I think about a Pushic Bass.
    The thing I want is the only 5 String Bass for me. A Bass that suites everything - Rock, Metal, Jazz, Maybe Slow Rock, R`n B, HipHop - something of everything. I thought about the following parts:

    Body: Ash or Maple / quilted Maple Top
    Neck: Maple / Birdseye Maple Board
    Hardware: ABM Bridge, Goto Tuners

    And a cool finish, maybe some burst or something.

    So what do you think about the wood combo? I thought about Sadowsky Single Coil or Sadowsky PJ Pickups? Any thoughts about that ?

    Thanks for all your help !

  2. Christopher


    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    My thoughts:

    Ash and maple will be pretty heavy, unless it's a small-bodied instrument. Try swamp ash and maple. Either way, it's going to be a bright sounding instrument.

    I wouldn't bother with a burst if you're going to use a pretty piece of wood for the top. Just use an even transparent finish. No reason to fool with Mother Nature.

    As far as electronics, I generally dislike PJ setups with a panpot; the P usually winds up sounding much louder than the J. JJ is fine for me.
  3. Gabu


    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    did ya mean sunburst? just currious. I am not sure what the ultimate versatility bass would be. I guess one that gets highs, mids and lows as you choose? In that case the amp would have something to do with it as well. I think a good amp can make a cheap bass sound okay, and a lousy amp can make a good bass sound bad.

    So where am I going with all this? ... ummm .... good question ... Hey, look! A bird!!


    (gbrooks disapears)
  4. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    LOLOL!!! Thanks I needed that.

    The most versatile bass I've ever played was a G&L L-2000/L-2500.

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    I got lazy. :)

    The switches are the key. You can run the pup's series or parrellel, have the pre-amp on, off, or on w/a trebble boost. you have infinite posibilities of coming close to many basses i.e. P-bass, J-bass, StingRay & almost everything else under the sun. Play one. I'm not to familiar w/Pushic Basses but an L-2500 can cost from about $1000. Good luck.
  5. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    I designed my Pushic bass (The Omega Bass 6) , in a way that Both pickups get a Series/Parallel/Single-Coil switching. plus the Pickup Blend pot.

    The Electronics are bartolini NTMB18 3 Band 18 Volt Active/Passive system.

    This way I think Im getting all the versatility I can get.

    If you add to that a Piezo Pickup , and a stereo output.. You will get the Ultimate Versatile bass.

    What Woods did I select?
    Mahogany + Zebrawood 50/50
    Wenge /Mahogany Neck 20% Mahogany
    Pau Ferro Fretboard.

    Great Lows and low-mid with mahogany, plus added attack and highs by the Zebrano.
    Stable Punchy Neck with the Wenge, plus warmth from the mahogany.

    I could have used Swamp Ash instead of Mahogany, but I need a lot of lows here.
  6. gweimer


    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Well, you can design a bass to be as versatile as you want, but for production models, I'm going to side with that lazy Nino :)D)! The G&L L-2000/2500 has a pretty broad spectrum - passive/active, humbucker/split-coil, multiple pickups. It's been said in other threads that these basses are the perfect bass to cover all grounds.
  7. Another vote for the G&L. I played it for many different styles when I was at school, fitted all very well. Now if only I had $2000AD to buy one.
  8. Suburban


    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    Hey, Luis, where are the composites?
    (Ouch, stop, it hurts, I was just kidding, Ouuu---MUMMYYYYYYY ;) )

    Well, Luis, on this one we agree a lot.
    Dual HB's with series/parallel/single switch could be completed with an inphase/outofphase switch, if you're into that sort of things. Piezo to complete the picture.
    Preamp is necessary for max veratility.

    I wood quit the Zebra for the body, or just use it for a thin "soundboard" for the attack.
    I'd go for a stiffer neck, replacing the mahogany with black walnut, oak or birch (or Pau Rosa, if I was in a colorful mood). The neck should provide rigidity, and any resonanse modification of the sound be let to the body (in my book).
    I'd stay with the natural wood finish - nicer.

    Finally: I think you'll get exactly what you *really want* (but aren't really aware of), if you talk to Dave.
  9. seamus


    Feb 8, 2001
    Nino and others beat me to it, another vote for G&L. It's definitely the most versatile bass I own. If I had to audition for a gig, and had no idea of the format, I would leave the house carrying this bass. My ash one with the jazz neck to be exact. :)

    I liked my first L-2000 so much, I ended up getting another that same month. I don't have any other bass that can so convincingly go from classic J-growl to an all out rock sound that cuts like a knife.
    It's got great tonal variations on the fly.

    I eventually will pick up the L-2500 as well, it's just a matter of time. :D
  10. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Inphase/Out of phase, doesnt make a lot of sense for a bass. In fact I think the out of phase switch will just eat all the bottom.

    No Zebra for the body? I have read that Zebra is one of the most aggressive slapper woods around.

    Stiffer neck? Well, I forgot to mention it has dual Carbon reinforcements, an that it is Wenge/Wenge/Less than 20% Mahogany/Wenge/Wenge.
    What is true, is that Mahogany wasnt the best choice, but it was too late when I decided to use Zebrano or just more Wenge for the center piece.
    Also, the tone in a NEck-trough bass is more affected by the neck rather than the body, contrary to a bolt On. In the case of a bolt on , yes .. the neck should be stiff as hell to transfer all the tone to the body.

    In fact... my bass is in production right now, So I will be getting it in about 3 weeks more.
  11. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    Out of phase will kill a lot of the bottom but it can be a very cool sound.
  12. bertbassplayer

    bertbassplayer Supporting Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Lafayette, LA
    For versatility, I'd say Swamp Ash body with a Maple Neck and Pao Ferro Fretboard (Pao Ferro is a just a little bit brighter than Rosewood). For pickups I aggree that with the P/J combo that the P overpowers the J. I'd say go Soapbars or J/J or J/P/J.