Bass head/rig for Bass + Telecaster?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by alembicbassist, Jul 12, 2003.

  1. Don't scream, I play bass mostly. I need to get a head/rig, but need to be playing my telecaster through it also. (Need jazz tones) Right now I have a 15" cabinet and borrowing a Ampeg 350H.

    Options so far (all new):

    Mesa Walkabout $800
    SWR SM 500 $800
    iAmp 350 $750
    GB GBE 400 $550
    SanAmp RBI/QSC RMX 1400 $750

    I like the portability of the Mesa, and like the tones of telecasters through my SABDDI, so think I would like the RBI/poweramp route. I can only afford one rig for everything. (If I can get something reasonably priced I will add in a Aguilar GS-112).

    Any one have opinions on using a bass and guitar through same rig? Any opinions on what would work best for cost/tone/portability and jazz tones for a fender jazz bass and the telecaster?
  2. junglebike

    junglebike Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    San Diego, CA
    I've thought about this alot. If you want jazz guitar sound as well as good bass, you need a good clean uncolored tone as a foundation, plus the ability to eq. That way, you can tweek the tones to suit bass or guitar.

    Acoustic Image will give you a great bass tone (see and a fantastic jazz guitar tone. I'd recommend either the contra combo if you don't need much volume, or the clarus head through an efficient hifi 4-ohm speaker (EA would be perfect.)

    Iamp would be best among the ones you've listed, I wager. Go to guitar center with your tele and play it through SWR and GK stuff (ampeg as well) to see if anything strikes your fancy.

    Also, if you went with separates, you could add a guitar preamp later as needed.

    Oh.. one more option: Polytone! They're bass amps often used for jazz guitar (joe pass, etc.) I think Acoustic Image sounds nicer, but Polytone is a jazz standard.
  3. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    I played with a guy (blues) who used a Strat and an old Fender Bassman 212. It did not have any reverb, but it sounded pretty cool.
  4. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Dont get an old Fender Bassman, IMO, unless you are only going to use it for guitar.

    I have the same problem, I have a Fender AM Std Strat, and I tried every combination of effects with various bass amps, but was never happy with the tone. Bass cabs just sound flat to me for guitar.

    I will either use my 50 watt Marshall Valvestate or a Bass Pod DI'd to the PA when I play guitar.
  5. Brendan


    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Bass cabs, or just the amps? Because, couldn't you run a guitar preamp through the effects loop, and get a decent guitar sound? Never tried it, but sounds like it might be a way to go.
  6. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    I did try that with a Guitar Pod and a few bass amp/cab combos. Still sounded kinda flat to ME. Someone else might feel differently. The other issue is that you may have to drastically alter your settings on a bass amp for guitar, then alter them back. I like being able to put down the bass, strap on a guitar, and be ready to play.
  7. Thanks for all the responses. Right now I am leaning towards the poweramp route with a preamp such as a Acoustic Image preamp mentioned above that could be used for both. I don't know where I would find a EA 12" cabinet to try out.

    I thought of the Sans Amp RBI first since I like the way my strat sounds through the SABDDI to a SWR Workingman combo, and I do like the SABDDI with all the basses I've had except the Alembic. I found the Alembic tone didn't need any improvement.
  8. junglebike

    junglebike Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    San Diego, CA
    Actually, the Acoustic Image is a head -- preamp w/ a power amp included. 200W @ 4ohms, not bad for 6lbs!
  9. Here's what you do...

    Ger yourself a guitar preamp like a Pod (or something) and a small mixer (like the Behringer 602). Run the output from the RBI and the guitar preamp into seperate channels on the mixer and the output of the mixer to the QSC. Now your bass and guitar have their own preamps and individual adjustments, but they come out of the same amp and speakers.
  10. i'm currently playing my bass and guitar through a peavey KBA keyboard amp. works rather well, but that could be because it does have a spring reverb and a tweeter, as, being a keyboard amp it needs the high end.
  11. 65JaBass


    May 24, 2001
    I have used a GenzBenz Series 1 2-10 combo for bass.It is a bi amped combo with 2-10" speakers, and a high frequency driver. Sounds great on bass nice low end with crisp highs. I bet it would sound great with a guitar going through it
    If you can find a rig like this try it out.
  12. Saetia


    Mar 27, 2003
    I used to play my guitar out of a Peavey Basic 60 amp when I was younger, because I didn't have the money back then to buy seperate rigs I just bought a bass combo. Anywho, it sounded rather good, warm, and covered the fret board rather well, just had to do some EQ'ing and everything was alright. I often now play my guitar through one of my bass rigs, my carvin rig, and it sounds good clean, as well as with distortion, very bottom heavy though.
    well hope I contributed