# BaSs OcTaVeS

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Gopher Bob, Dec 9, 2001.

1. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
Just a couple minutes ago i was thinking, How many octaves below guitar is Bass??? I know this is probably an easy question but i couldn't figure it out.

2. ### embellisherHoly Ghost filled Bass PlayerSupporting Member

A normal, 4 string bass is tuned one octave below the lowest 4 strings on a regular, 6 string guitar.

3. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
Ok, so if its One octave below, then playing at the 12 fret on the bass would mean going into the guitars register??? Or so called piccolo bass tuning is one octave higher than bass and its not a guitar... i still don't get it i guess.

Nov 24, 2001
Florida

5. ### PanteraFan

A piccolo bass is tuned like a bass, not a guitar, ie all fourths.

A 6 string bass is BEADGC
A 6 string guitar is EADGBE.
Lets say you have a 7 string bass and a 7 string guitar, both with a low B:

The two highest strings on the bass are a half step higher than the guitar. If you follow this formulae for multistrings, you can see how far the difference goes:

8 string guitar(doesn't exist to my knowledge): BEADGBEA

And this continues on. However, Em-Bel is most likely able to correct me on this.

6. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
explain what? what's the question now?

7. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
JT, my question is, how much lower is the basses register compared to guitar. I have a simple mind and would apreciate a simple answer. Oh and by the way JT, your mp3 i downloaded was very impressive and your doubleneck conklin is pretty sweet as well.

8. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
thanks anyways, i finally figured it out for myself. so for all you that don't know. the bass is 2 octaves below guitar. i figured it out by holding down the 7th frett on the A string so it would sound a 2 octave high E. then i pulled my old acoustic out of the closet and played the low E. They were the same.. Tada. 2 octaves down. Im just surprised you guys couldn't help me faster, geez, j.k lol

9. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
thanks. it's a single octave lower than a guitar. piccolo bass is the same octave as the 4 lowest strings on a guitar, except it has a longer scale length, so it sounds differently.

10. ### VoodooChile

i hate to say this but you're wrong. the low E on a bass is only one octave below the low E on a 6 string guitar.

11. ### john turnerYou don't want to do that. Trust me.Staff Member

Mar 14, 2000
atlanta ga
the 7th fret is one octave above the open e string.

12. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
dang, you got me. at least i tried. . and my guess made you respond quicker!

13. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
ok i get that now. But how on earth does extended string length make it sound different, if its the same as guitar then it shouldn't be called a bass to confuse me! It should be called a 4 string guitar with a longer scale length! But seriously how does the longer strings affect the sound, how much differently do they sound compared to bass??????? JT im sure you can answer it cause you seem like a very inteligent guy! thanks for your help everyone.

14. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
THE ABOVE POST IS ASKING ABOUT THE EXTENDED STRING LENGTH OF A PICCOLO BASS. AND ITS ASKING HOW THE PICCOLO SOUNDS DIFFERENTLY THAN GUITAR. thats just in case my post was unclear.

15. ### nikofthehill

Jul 30, 2001
san jose, CA
something for you to try:

play your bass above the 12th fret...same octave as a guitar, right?
it sounds WAY different. this is because the string gauge and string length affect the tone in a HUGE way. sounds a lot bassier, and fuller. a piccolo bass's strings are thicker than guitar strings. hope that helps!
-nik

16. ### ldiezman

Jul 11, 2001
Nashville
hey dude.. its like singing.. if a man singing bass sings a C4 at the same time a man singing tenor sings a C4 (C4 being middle C) it is going to sound completely different comming from the two men. Because their vocal chords are different lengths and sizes the basses C4 will sound well,, bassier while the tenor's C4 will sound thinner and brighter... its just the nature of the beast.. and the thicker the strings, the different vibrations you get... its just the way it is man

Peace,
jim

17. ### Gopher Bob

Nov 24, 2001
Florida
Ahhhh i see! Size does matter!