Or are they all stupid guitar players who think bass is for those with no talent? I tried taking lessons from a guy who said "guitar and bass instruction, for all levels, all ages, all styles"...when I got in there, all he did was play a few riffs on his guitar, talk about how great he was at guitar, and how he hates playing bass...to quote him "bass is so simple...it's only four strings...I can do everything anyone can do on a bass, on my guitar, and thirty times faster"...then he went into HIPPIE STORIES....now, I have no problem with someone being a hippie...it's a personal decision, but I don't go to 20 dollar an hour bass lessons to hear about the first time you got caught smoking pot, and what your dad who, was in the army (working for the man) did to you for it. He was like 50, too...all he did was talk about Pot, how legendary he was at guitar, how great his voice was, and how he had a perfect ear/pitch. Oh, did I also mention he sprained my finger (almost broke it...I couldn't play for a week and a half) because I played the wrong note? he was like "third fret" so I put my finger there, and he said "NO! THIS third fret!" and grabbed my finger and forced it onto the fretboard...I heard a loud pop when he did this. Consequently, I never went to him again. when you live in alaska, there aren't many options...he was the only teacher I could get in with...we don't have a single "bass" teacher, who actually plays bass. Well, not that I've found in three years of searching. What the hell can I do to get some real help? books get old...and so does jamming in my room with a cd, over, and over, and over... Are real teachers just a myth?