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Bassist behind Usher @ Halftime Super Bowl 58

Sound and mix were terrible. I cranked my TV and vocals were still buried. If this is pre recorded, then why so bad?
I agree that the show has been pre-recorded in all recent years but I'm not sure parts or all of it wasn't live last night. To your point, it had too many imperfections to have been a contemplated take.

At minimum, all of the vocals were live. You could see the dynamics changing in Usher's voice as he moved his head, hear his breathing as he danced, etc. I'm less sure about the backing tracks.

My crew commented that the show wasn't as good as they expected. I agree it wasn't, but I told them that some of it was because Usher was courageous enough to do some of it live, and what they were hearing was a normal live show without the benefit of pre- or post-production.
 
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I just wish they could actually play live for the thing.
At (IMO) too many concerts now, the choreography & visual have taken precedence over the music.
The Superb Owl is just the most blatant example of it.

I always feel badly for Milli Vanilli when I see shows like this; those guys paid an oversized price for what has become commonplace/accepted in performance.
 
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Based on the sound, they are not pushing the mix directly to the broadcast. Instead they are feeding the broadcast from the live mics in the stadium for a "Live" sound and feel rather than the clean pre-recorded take.
Could be, but that doesn't explain the visual tracking of the vocal dynamics with what we were hearing. The easiest way to detect lip syncing is to watch the head of the singer and it's even easier when the show is dancing and choreography like that one was. I imagine they might have recorded the vocal tracks during a similar situation where they were moving and dancing.
 
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I agree that the show has been pre-recorded in all recent years but I'm not sure parts or all of it wasn't live last night. To your point, it had too many imperfections to have been a contemplated take.

At minimum, all of the vocals were live. You could see the dynamics changing in Usher's voice as he moved his head, hear his breathing as he danced, etc. I'm less sure about the backing tracks.

My crew commented that the show wasn't as good as they expected. I agree it wasn't, but I told them that some of it was because Usher was courageous enough to do some of it live, and what they were hearing was a normal live show without the benefit of pre- or post-production.

1993 was when they implemented the performance be pre-recorded. They obviously use live mics for the artists to "talk", "yell", etc..
 
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Could be, but that doesn't explain the visual tracking of the vocal dynamics with what we were hearing. The easiest way to detect lip syncing is to watch the head of the singer and it's even easier when the show is dancing and choreography like that one was. I imagine they might have recorded the vocal tracks during a similar situation where they were moving and dancing.

I just assumed they sang along to a full backing track (with vocals.) It gives insurance to the vocals, if anything happens they still have the backing track rolling, but it gives the opportunity for the performer to sing and talk during the performance.
 
They have something like 12 minutes to get setup, 18 minutes to perform, and 12 minutes to clear the field

I timed it out of curiosity this year. Took 11 minutes to set up, 13 minutes performance, and 8 minutes to tear down. Setup and tear down probably took less time than that, because I was just timing from when it went to and came back from commercial.
 
Sound and mix were terrible. I cranked my TV and vocals were still buried. If this is pre recorded, then why so bad?
I believe the majority of the music for these is canned, but certain parts are still "real." The featured artist vocals are almost always live (Usher and Alicia Keys definitely were- his mic came up late at the beginning of the performance, and her first note was a nasty voice crack that surely would have been fixed in a recorded performance), and I think HER's guitar was live but I don't know for sure. Luda and Lil Jon probably were too, based on the amount of ad-lib they were doing.

In years past I know recent shows have been a blend of pre-recorded and live stuff- Bruno Mars notably had a live drum solo at the beginning of his performance, but most of the band was canned from rehearsals and tech week, the chili peppers didn't bother plugging in etc., but I think as technology for this stuff continues to improve and become extremely reliable they can get away with more and more live stuff on the broadcast. 20 years ago, before advances in wireless, digital boards etc, that was a lot harder.
 
I preferred the band and guy that played a Fodera on the "Booze Cruise" episode of the Office more than the half time show tonight lol. Not like there was any instrument played live during either. Just me though, and I shall await the slaughter that will probably come from me posting this knowing how TB is these days.
Agreed, those half time "shows" are one big joke. :laugh:
 
Nope. They have something like 12 minutes to get setup, 18 minutes to perform, and 12 minutes to clear the field. So they can't risk any technical issues. The whole show is pre-recorded and will go on regardless.

I just didn't get the third rate Micheal Jackson impersonator as a halftime show. At least Jackson had cool catchy music.

I suspect you have not followed R&B closely for the last thirty years. Usher is huge and he is actually "Old School" to the 45 and under crowd. He has already sold out an October show in St. Louis and another show has been added for the next day. The Super Bowl folks knew what they were doing when they booked him.

For what it's worth, I'm not an Usher fan, I just know he is big in his music scene.
 
Except the Lifeson strat had a bucker at the bridge position.

Yeah- came with a single, but he swapped them for the L500 (lawrence- Wilde Pickups). He also put in Floyd Rose and a mirror guard.

The first thing I thought when I saw H.E.R.'s beautiful red guitar was the GUP era Fender from Lifeson. Really good looking guitars. She has a signature guitar...
 
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