BBE Sonic Maximizer on a Carvin R600?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by TJBass, Oct 11, 2001.

  1. I am wondering how to hook it up to the Carvin head. Is it best to run it thru the effects loop or place it between the amp and the bass?

    I'm looking for one now, thats why I asked....

  2. pmkelly


    Nov 28, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    I always run mine through the loop on my head... I don't think it really matter which you run it through, I just can control it better in the effects loop. Just give it a shot bth ways, and whatever trips you trigger the most is the way you should run it!

  3. The BBE Process is made to be run through the effects loop.
  4. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    It is very important that you run it through the loop. The BBE is designed to be the last link in the chain. By putting in the loop, it will process the signal post-preamp and function much better. IF you EQ and compress after the BBE, it will dampen its effects.

  5. Is the 264 any good? I found one for $49, or should I spend the $170 for 400 series?

    Thanx for all the help...

  6. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    In my opinion, the BBE Sonic Spankifier is a waste of money. I had one several years ago and found that much better tones could be achieved without it.
  7. ItchyBass


    Oct 12, 2001
    Eugene, OR
    I have to agree with beermonkey. I have a BBE Sonic Maximizer, with a built in crossover. I while I do not use a biamped setup any longer, when I did, the crossover was the only function of the unit I ended up using. You can achieve the same effect that the Sonic Maximizer accomplishes with your EQ – for free – with less noise – and less chance of something going wrong.

    Mine is now stuck in my P.A. rack, where it is used, again, solely as a crossover…
  8. Well I am sure more hi end systems do not benefit that much from it, but I aints got me no fancy smancy SVP PRO with Big End cabs with gold plated tweeters connected with high line wires with "Danger High Voltage" signs attached to them. I just play back yard parties, practice in a garage, and even though the carvin r600 head "is" a good head, the carvin 410 cab I have leaves a lot to be desired and unfortunately my day job doesn't pay me enough to buy anything I "desire." I just want to know if the 264 is as good as the rack mountable maximizers. If you don't like yours that much, how much you want for it?

    (no offense intended)
  9. ItchyBass


    Oct 12, 2001
    Eugene, OR
    No offense taken.

    Mine is noisy… and it is one of the nicer ones. The more you pay, the quieter they get (plus dual channels, which would not matter running it through an effects loop). So I would imagine the 264 would add more noise than mine. In a backyard party that probably does not matter – but in my opinion, in that setting you won’t hear any difference from a Sonic Maximizer anyhow…

    I had a 6 space rack filled with crap (including an SVP Pro, 1000 watts of power, and Bag End – Scary man!). I tried my buddies Carvin Cyclops and liked the sound that came out of it better, and it was a hell of a lot easier to deal with. Less is more!

    Go with cheap… What you will end up getting out of it will not be worth spending the extra $$ on.

    I need mine for the crossover though... sorry.
  10. pmkelly


    Nov 28, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    The BBE 264 only has ins and outs for RCA jacks, which makes it about the most kick-a$$ thing you can get for the home stereo, thats where my 264 is. You will need to get one of the rackmount versions, the 482 is what I use... never had a problem with it, and I don't think that I would ever play again without it! But take everybody's input (buy the damn thing) and try it out for yourself (did you get it yet). You really can't tell about something till you play with it (you won't be disappointed) all by yourself!


    I really dig that "subliminal suggestion"... And I did swipe it from someone on the board.... so credit to you, whoever it was!
  11. What about the 362 or maybe the Behringer Dualfex Pro. I noticed guitar center had the Behringer Dualfex Pro for $99. The salesman told me that they sound incredibly alike and that he could not tell the difference. But that the Dualfex Pro was made to compete (kill as he put it) the Sonic Maximizer. Any thoughts on this? It is quite a price break if it is the same....
  12. The biggest mistake you can ever make is to listen to a hack salesman getting paid minimum wage. All he wants to do is move the inventory that has been sitting on the shelf the longest.

    The good gear sells itself.

    The job of a salesman is to promote sales of things that don't sell, to idiots that don't know better. Then they sit around on break in the back-room and laugh about how they sold a piece of **** to a moron.

    BBE has many patents related to their process. Pro Studios, TV & Radio Stations, and Huge Venue P.A.'s all employ BBE. I have never seen the Behringer Dualfex Pro used in any of these applications. Tell the bonehead salesman to pull his head out.
  13. Ok, I'm with you on the dualfex, but what about the Sonic Maximizer 362? I know the 400 series is 2 channel, but I only have one cab, would this be a better maximizer for me and my wallet?