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Be careful of what you do in your youth!

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Woodchuck, Jan 30, 2004.

  1. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Indians pitcher asks forgiveness for role in gay porno video

    By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer
    January 27, 2004
    CLEVELAND (AP) -- Indians minor leaguer Kazuhito Tadano is asking for forgiveness for what he called a one-time mistake -- his appearance in a gay porn video in which he engaged in a homosexual act.

    Tadano took part in the video three years ago when he was a college student. Sitting in the Cleveland clubhouse Tuesday, the pitcher said he hoped to put his actions in the past.

    ``All of us have made mistakes in our lives,'' Tadano said, reading a statement in English. ``Hopefully, you learn from them and move on.'' Shunned by Japanese baseball teams, the 23-year-old Tadano signed with the Indians last March. They think he can make their club this spring.

    Tadano gave few details about the video, which he made after his sophomore year at Rikkyo University.

    ``I did participate in a video and I regret it very much,'' he said. ``It was a one-time incident that showed bad judgment and will never be repeated. I was young, playing baseball, and going to college and my teammates and I needed money.

    ``Frankly, if I were more mature and had really thought about the implications of what I did, it never would have happened.''

    Through an interpreter, Tadano added: ``I'm not gay. I'd like to clear that fact up right now.''

    The Indians set up the press session after getting many requests from reporters to speak with Tadano. The team wanted to address the issue before spring training starts next month.

    Tadano's admission will certainly draw attention to homosexuality in baseball, a sensitive issue that most players prefer to not even discuss.

    In 2002, All-Star catcher Mike Piazza felt the need to hold a press conference to profess his heterosexuality after a newspaper gossip columnist suggested that one of the New York Mets' top players was gay.

    There are no openly gay players in the big leagues today. The same is true in the NFL, NHL and NBA.

    Tadano was one of Japan's top college pitchers and expected to be a high first-round pick in 2002. But after a Japanese tabloid published photos of him in the video a month before the draft, pro teams in Japan did not select him.

    ``The commissioner of Japanese baseball came out and said, 'You will not draft Tadano,''' asserted the pitcher's agent, Alan Nero. ``But this kid didn't assault anybody. He didn't commit murder. If anything, he is guilty of being naive.''

    Twice in the minor leagues last season, Tadano stood before his teammates and confessed to his participation in the video, which Nero said can only be obtained on the black market in Japan.

    Tadano received overwhelming support from players at Kinston, N.C., where he started the season and later at Akron, the Indians' Double-A affiliate.

    ``I wanted to tell the truth to my teammates,'' he said.

    A former starter, he pitched in all three levels of the minors last season, going 6-2 with a 1.55 ERA and three saves. At Akron, he didn't allow a run in his first 28 innings and struck out 78 in 72 2-3 innings.

    Outfielder Grady Sizemore said Tadano's speech last year was well received in the clubhouse.

    ``You could tell he was nervous,'' said Sizemore, a top prospect who lived with Tadano this winter. ``But I don't think it changed anybody's opinion of him. After it was said and done, nobody thought anything more of it. He's a great guy and a great pitcher.''

    If he pitches well during spring training, Tadano could win a spot in Cleveland's bullpen. Whenever he joins the Indians, pitcher C.C. Sabathia says Tadano will be welcomed.

    ``This is the right team and the right organization for him,'' Sabathia said. ``We have good guys here. Everybody has done something that they regret in their lives. He's a person just like everyone else.''

    Tadano tried out for several major league teams last spring in Arizona. Coming off an elbow injury, he didn't get any offers. Nero said some teams were turned off by what he called ``the scandal.''

    ``He didn't pitch well enough for them to ignore it,'' Nero said. ``I also think they were afraid of the baggage that would come with it.''

    Not the Indians. They liked Tadano enough to invite him to work out at their spring training facility in Winter Haven, Fla. Eventually, they signed him to a minor league contract that included a $67,500 bonus.

    General manager Mark Shapiro said the team decided to sign Tadano despite knowing there could be backlash.

    ``We thought the upside was well worth the risk, energy and time to support him,'' Shapiro said.

    Tadano knows he may face fan abuse in major league parks such as Yankee Stadium, where heckling the visitors is part of the pageantry.

    He joked that he's ready for it.

    ``I don't understand English, so it doesn't really matter,'' he said.
  2. Stephen S

    Stephen S Member

    Apr 10, 2002
    San Bernardino, CA
    I remember the making of that video. I think I had one too many cause I would have never let him do what he did if I was sober.
  3. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    So what you're saying is I SHOULDN'T be in a gay porn...

    oh, errr hemmm, well. It's a good thing that I've never... ever been in a gay porn. Ever.
  4. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    No, no, please, partake my good man. Just don't use your real name. Take me, for instance, I used the name Cabinboy Cal...er...crap, I've probably said too much. Now you'll have to be eliminated.
  5. Marley's Ghost

    Marley's Ghost Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    I wonder if he was the pitcher or the catcher in the movie.
  6. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA

    Ba dum chi

    (insert lude joke)

    Woodchuck, can I be Johnny McRockmen the policeman, fireman, and rich oil crazy texan. :hyper:
  7. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    *starts growing a stylish moustache*
  8. LiquidMidnight


    Dec 25, 2000
    You know, I don't understand why it's such a stigma to be in a porno. How many times have you heard of someone being in a position (such as a television show) and then getting kicked out of it because they were in a porno? You know what, it doesn't matter. If I'm an employer and I find a job candidate that is excellent for the job, I'm going to hire them. Once again, people pushing their moral agendas on others. :rolleyes:
  9. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    OK...so one of my employees is a high profile representative for my company. Said employee is also a side-show pornstar. Employee goes out to make a sale, only to be recognized (somehow?) by the person he's attempting to make the sale to. Or, better yet, high profile representative is discovered and words gets around--how do you think your clients would react?

    My guess is probably NOT with approval.

    Right or wrong, you gotta make the best decisions for your company.
  10. HAHA! Great one.
  11. LiquidMidnight


    Dec 25, 2000
    Your right in that is how the world works, but I believe that it shouldn't be an issue. Companies choose employees based on who will fit the company "Image". It's usually not based on any particular prejudice of the employee, but he/she must consider all of the judging clients/customers that will be using the business. For example a employer may not hire someone with a pierced ear, not because he has a problem with pierced ears (and it's not a saftey concern) but because it makes some discriminating customer (who the peircing doesn't effect anyways) defer their business from that particular company.

    As far as being recognized by a client, while, that's kind of hypocritical. Obviously the client must enjoy pornographic material to recognize the sales associate. Unless you are Ron Jeremey or Jenna Jamerson, you're probaly not in the mainstream media. That's like me recognizing some underground indie artist on the street. Chances are, I must check out underground indie music, because it's doubtful I saw them on MTV.

    Boy, wouldn't the world be a much better place if people would quit worrying about what other people do when it has no negative effect on them, or other people. Remember as I said in another dicussion we had; some people think what we do (play music) is a very seedy business.
  12. In this case, Tadano's past could have much more of an affect than if you or I were in this position of having made a porn flick. In the professional sports world - especially in the major stick and ball sports - homosexuality is cursed and reviled with plenty of harassment of every type bestowed on the subject. This is where it could get sticky for the player and the club that pays him.

    Fortunately, he's in the American League and won't get too many chances to have some high heat chucked at his head.

    That's NOT to say however that he won't have balls hitting his chin on occasion! :eek:
  13. Nick man

    Nick man

    Apr 7, 2002
    Tampa Bay
    I was thinking something along those lines.

    Professional sports (in the US at least) is a very macho, jock thing. If some "pansy" were to be on your team you might feel like he makes you less tough. He also might make his team look less tough... who knows.

    Besides, I know some guys arent gonna be too fond of sharing a locker room with a guy who was in a gay porn.

  14. Brendan

    Brendan Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
  15. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    When I was going by the name of Buck Nekkid, I was mainstream. How soon they forget! :(
  16. Brendan

    Brendan Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Wait... then that was... and the girl.... trick photography?

    ... :eek:
  17. VS


    Jun 6, 2002
    Mountain City, Tennessee
    Discounted Gear: Peavey
    Don't do dumb things.
  18. Stephen Soto

    Stephen Soto

    Oct 12, 2003
    uh, yeah. being in gay porno's is a BAD thing ;).
  19. bill h

    bill h

    Aug 31, 2002
    small town MN
    LMAO :eek: :rolleyes:
  20. LiquidMidnight


    Dec 25, 2000
    Well, it is a bass site. I guess I was thinking of everybody's favorite Motown session bassist. I don't think he's ever been in any porno, though. :D

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