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becoming the best bass player

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Samelot, Jun 29, 2005.

  1. Samelot


    Jun 23, 2005
    hi, id like to become an extremely good bass player, i started to play bass around 12, but i havent always been this serious at bass playing. Are there any real good/ well known bass palyers out there that started after age 16?
  2. I heard the bassist from Bouncing souls started when he was 23.
    Probably explains the music :D Just kidding
  3. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    Actually your only chance to become the best living bassist is to start killing every bassist ever... I might recommend starting with Fi3lDy!
  4. Samelot


    Jun 23, 2005
    oh boys... no, but im really wondering, has any top player (jaco, victor, marcus) started after age 16??
  5. Personally I don't think the age of 16 has anything to do with it. Its a lot of hard, diligent work and of course gobs of INNATE TALENT. Unfortunately, innate talent isn't learnable.
  6. True, you also need rhythm, you'll be amazed how many people can't keep a beat.

    Ive known people(1 person) who knew all the theory and notes and everything but couldn't pluck a string or keep a beat and only had knowledge of trance/dance music, god it was like someone smacking a bass against a cat. :D ;)
  7. Samelot


    Jun 23, 2005
    terrible, just terrible. Then i must go on a go on a Hajj to find some talent. See u guys in a few years..
  8. JHL


    Apr 8, 2005
    London, England
    richard bona started when he was 18 i believe... there are numerous examples. don't worry about your age, if you think you'll have fun learning music, and you think you can do it well, go for it!
  9. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    Uh 16 is a pretty early age to start bassin', I started when I was like 18 or 19, but luckily, I'm totally awesome.
  10. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002

    Totally awesome at not being totally awesome! OH THAT'S GOING TO BURN!!!
  11. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002

    I'm not so sure about that. Maybe he started the bass at 18, but I think he'd been around music his whole life, as well as coming from a musical family.
  12. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002
    Basically, 'extremely good' is a futile goal. There are infinite things you can be 'extremely good' at, and even then, what may seem 'extremely good' to some will be 'extremely pointless' to others.

    When I was your age, I thought that 'extremely good' meant being able to play all the wicked slap lines of victor wooten and stuff. Or knowing every technique, or being able to play really fast. So, I tinkered around with a lot of those things, I can play really silly slap lines, play fast, and I know a handful of techniques. Does that make me 'extremely good'?

    Maybe in the eyes of some, but in the eyes of others all my abilities on the bass amount to diddly if I'm don't play roots and 5ths with an even pulse, on the beat and with some groove.

    So, when you say 'extremely good' you're kind of setting yourself up for failure, because such a concept doesn't really exist outside of your own definitions of it, which you don't seem to have defined.

    A lot of people say that there are many paths to take in music, I prefer to think of it as an ocean, with no paths at all, just a whole lot of it, all around you, with infinite possibilities.

    If you want to be 'extremely good', you should first figure out what that means, and then, think about why you want it, and then think about how you're going to get it. Then you can start working on it.

    For the record, I believe jaco started BASS when he was 15 or 16. He had been playing drums up till then, and I think he had tinkered on some other instruments a little bit here and there, but he didn't actually pick up the bass till his late teens if I remember correctly.

    Also for the record, I started when I was 12ish, but it took me a while before I really started to realize just how massive this whole music thing is.
  13. Vic's been playing since he was very young, definitely less that 10 years old at the time he started. Jaco, however, was a drummer until his teens.
  14. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Jaco started when he was 15...so pretty close.

    IMO, it's less about time and more about work. I started at 14, but I didn't do much in my first year. A couple of good teachers and a lot of practice have made me make huge leaps in my playing since then. Also, a significant portion of the credit goes to TB for being such amazing resource.
  15. The longer you play and the more you learn the more you realize how much you don't know.
  16. Futurebass


    Jun 22, 2005
    You can learn any instrument at any age. This is a subject that's not even worth thinking about. Just play!

    By the way (I can feel the flames) bass is not a particularly difficult instrument compared to many others (violin, oboe, sarod, etc.) Hell even upright bass is much more demanding than bass guitar. Being a good bassist is more about finding good music to play than anything else.

  17. It's not about the difficulty.
  18. Age is a moot point....sure Jaco started at 15, but it took him only 3 years to be one of the best players in the world. I'd say around his 7 year mark he was the best player on the planet. It's a matter of being born with the right stuff.
  19. QORC


    Aug 22, 2003
    East Coast
    Geddy Lee - he started as a guitarist and was "kicked to bass" during an early version of Rush
  20. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002

    There's no question that Jaco was far more than up to par on his theory and could read well, but these came slowly...because he spent all his time gigging ;). Red Wonder makes a good point that time is not all inclusive. It actually was when he was 18 that he first claimed to be the best bass player on the planet!

    Get a teacher, and practice. You get out what you put in, so put in everything you've got!