(belated)NBD - Music Man Joe Dart Sterling

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mike Vee, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    (I posted this thread about a month ago and then shortly after received a month suspension (ooops), so some of you may have seen this already, apologies.)

    I just wanted to share this amazing bass with everyone. I got this used for a really good price on Reverb (under 2K) about a month ago. When it came, the feel was AMAZING. So light, so fast and smooth.

    The look, however, and the whole Joe Dart "schtick" that I was seeing repeated "ad nauseum" online ("you're not versatile," etc. argh.) was not for me, so I decided to add a regular EBMM knob and white sterling pickguard, making it look like a more traditional Sterling. The "No Dart" if you will.

    Next, I added LaBella LTF strings, and that was it, absolutely PERFECT bass. To me, it sounds like 60% P-bass, 40% Stingray, which to me is just an epic tone. It had that tone with the stock strings, but the LaBellas REALLY brought it out even more and made it way easier to play and warmer sounding. I just can't put this bass down!! It sounds like a super rich, gooey late 70s funk bass. (through SVT) I'll go ahead and say yea, "Bernard Edwards."


    I also have a P with LaBella LTFs, and even through the strings are the same the tone is completely different. In fact, after playing this and you pickup the P, it sounds even more "P" than you remember. They 2 basses complement each other SO WELL and I couldn't imagine needing another tone or having a better tone.

    I am sure some would say I am crazy to drill a pickguard on a$2500 bass (that resells for over$4K) but I don't care :) I love it!


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  2. J Posega

    J Posega Cat Dad and Dingwall Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Very cool. Props to you for modding it to your liking. I can't stand folks that whine about "ugh, but resale value" when talking about mods.
     
  3. stigbeve

    stigbeve

    Sep 24, 2014
    Love it! If I had one I would probably do exactly what you did.
     
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  4. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    I think that tasteful mods are always welcome, especially when they stick with a “factory” look. I always like to make little mods to make my bass unique.

    I also actually had the volume knob replaced with a Tonestyler Bass 10 for a while. I like it a lot but in the end I decided it had too many positions and was just a tad cumbersome to click through them all. I am considering some other alternatives for replacing the volume with some sort of tone knob, maybe a Bass 6 tonestyler or a traditional, Fender style tone pot.

    Anyone know what kind of tone pot is in the Cutlass bass?
     
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  5. J Posega

    J Posega Cat Dad and Dingwall Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2005
    Portland, OR
    No clue on the Cutlass tone pot, but what about trying out a series/parallel switch? Does the pickup have more than 2 wires? I just put a Nordstrand MM4.4 pickup into an SBMM wired to a series/single/parallel switch and it sounds great in all 3 positions (granted, the "single" coil is split like a P bass so it's noiseless). You could use the rotary selector from Dingwall for bridge coil/both parallel/both series/neck coil.

    I'm more concerned over controlling the tone at my bass rather than volume since I can do that from my pedalboard.

    I'd start my exploration with a classic tone pot with treble bleed and go from there.
     
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  6. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    This is a special pickup for this bass with just 2 wires: "Music Man Custom wound Sterling Bass pickup- ceramic magnet, parallel coils, no phantom coil"

    do you have a tone pot recommendation?
     
  7. J Posega

    J Posega Cat Dad and Dingwall Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2005
    Portland, OR
    I like No-Load Tone pots. When you turn it all the way up to 10, it bypasses the pot so it's like the pickup is wired straight to the jack.

    CTS 500K No Load / Blender Pro Guitar Pot w/ Brass Shaft

    EDIT: treble bleed circuits only work with a volume control, not a tone control.
     
  8. CryingBass

    CryingBass Sowing the Seeds of Uncertainty Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    Let your fingers Dart! ( cool score )
     
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  9. Cool.
    I would have done Tort rather than white.
    I would have also probably drilled a few more holes for more pots & stuff…
    Maybe it’s a good thing I don’t have one…:bag:
     
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  10. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    I love the guard mod. Congrats.
     
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  11. Isaac_James

    Isaac_James

    May 20, 2021
    Eugene, OR
    I really like the changes you've made. The chrome knob in particular is a massive improvement over the big clunky white ones these came with (I always thought they looked like they came from a Fisher Price toy, so very out of place on a $2000 instrument).
     
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  12. Chicken Wing

    Chicken Wing

    Mar 26, 2017
    Earth
    @Mike Vee Cool look ! I don't know what tone pot is in the Cutlass, but boy it is the most usable tone pot. It rolls off the highs but leaves the full fundamental... very present without sounding "underwater"
     
  13. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    I love tort but not with natural finish. I also have black as a backup.
     
  14. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    I’m going to call Ernie ball and see if they would be kind enough to sell me one or tell me what was used. The volume pot in this bass is unbranded and it’s 100 K.
     
  15. cataract

    cataract Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham AL
    Change that guard to TORT and I’ll give this post a like. For real tho lol
     
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  16. salmon256

    salmon256

    Jul 10, 2021
    NY
    You are now one of the most versatile bassist in the world! (Reference to the Vulfpeck video of this bass! YOU'RE NOT VERSATILE!) :smug::smug:
    For real though, awesome looking bass man, congrats and enjoy!!!
     
  17. Chicken Wing

    Chicken Wing

    Mar 26, 2017
    Earth
    @Mike Vee I'll ask the Cutlass/Caprice club too
     
  18. Mike Vee

    Mike Vee

    Oct 8, 2012
    Los Angeles
    nooooooo
    lol

    i want to install a tone knob just to counter that rhetoric

    will do!
     
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  19. The pickguard and MM knob are perfect, I like this look much better than the stock Joe Dart.
     
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  20. Mario Vidange

    Mario Vidange

    Apr 20, 2020
    It looks much better and I’m sure it plays fantastic.
     
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