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Bergantino AE-310 Interest

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by CaptainWally, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. Strong interest

    37 vote(s)
  2. Moderate interest

    32 vote(s)
  3. I'd consider it redundant in the Bergie lineup

    17 vote(s)
  4. Stewed carrots for me, please...

    29 vote(s)
  1. Hollow Man

    Hollow Man Supporting Member

    Apr 28, 2003
    Springfield, VA
    They're good for you. Eat them.
  2. ThumbyAche

    ThumbyAche Gold Supporting Member

    Sep 15, 2005
    Pacific NW
    I'd be in for an AE310 or and AE322 would be the bomb....:bassist:
  3. Joe Smithberger

    Joe Smithberger Supporting Member

    Mar 8, 2002
    Canton, Ohio, USA
    I'd be in if it was a vertical inline cabinet with NV style titlback wheels like the old EA 310. I'd like the height.
  4. petch

    petch Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Medina, Ohio
    I dig that idea. :)
  5. joelb79


    Mar 22, 2006
    Lansing, Michigan
    three 12ohm drivers.
  6. GRoberts

    GRoberts Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Tucson, AZ USA
    To me, some of the benefit of a Neo cab is not only the lightweight factor, but the physical shape that makes it easily transportable. That said, a vertical inline 3x10 could be cool, but I think the smaller 'cube' might be more widely accepted. It's a moot point anyway since this thread is more about "wishing." But who knows? Maybe Jim B will consider an AE310.
  7. When he brings out a NV210 I'll direct my efforts to supporting this cause :p
  8. Scott McArron

    Scott McArron Supporting Member

    For the gigs I play (casinos, night clubs, etc.) and for the kind of cars I like to drive (sporty coupes:cool:) 410s are too much, and 210s are not enough. Bring on the 310! I think they look cool, too...:D
  9. Stu L.

    Stu L.

    Nov 27, 2001
    Corsicana, Texas
    I'd like a NV410...
  10. Yeah I'd back you up on that, might be a little OTT on top of an NV215 for me personally but that is two more tens...

    the way the 3x10s are laid out on Bergs seems to take up just as much, if not a little more space then some more compact 4x10s.
  11. Jim Zuehsow

    Jim Zuehsow

    Feb 7, 2008
    Not really of much importance. The speaker impedance varies all over the place, especially at resonance. The difference in power drawn from the amplifier will be under 2 db, which you probably couldn't tell by ear. Also, the damping factor of tube amps due to their lowness compared to solidstate amps won't cause a tonal change. Your tube amp will be quite happy driving them off either the 4 or 8 ohm tap, with the 4 ohm being preferred.
  12. The AE410 is so small compared to other 410's out there that I wouldn't really see the need for a 310. The AE410 is not much bigger at all than the Epi310UL.
  13. Ah, but then that begs the question of just how small an AE310 could be...:hyper:
  14. +1... although the 410 is just wonderfully small. It's only about 6" higher than the 210 and about 3" deeper.

    Again, to me the 310UL was always a compromise compared to the 410UL, but for some it is worth it since the 410UL is a full size 410 that won't fit in some back seats. The AE410 isn't much bigger than the Epi310UL, and it would be a rare situation where you couldn't fit that 410 in any car.

    Given that two of the three speakers would still be in vertical orientation, the only thing it seems you would save sizewise is an inch or two in the width of the cab. I guess if Jim made one that had the same 12" depth as the 210AE, that might be kind of cool, but not sure about the tone/volume compromise there.

    So...I'm really singing the praises of the very compact and lightweight 410 rather than dumping on the 310 idea... the 410 is just a wonderful form factor, and I wouldn't want to give up the full '410 wump' to save what would seem to me a very small amount of size and weight. IMO!
  15. Shiveringbass


    Aug 21, 2005
    One more vote for that non existing 310.

    I'm struggling hard at the moment to choose between 2x112" or a 4x10" in the AE line.

    I'm pretty sure that if a AE310 would exist, the brainstorm would be over for a few week now.

    I like 4x10" but even in light and compact package like the AE series, it still a big cab to move and a 62lbs to lift.

  16. +1 I would bet that most voting for an AE310 haven't tried the AE410 yet. Trust me, it is an amazing sounding cabinet and VERY easy to move around. That extra speaker really helps this cabinet pound out those low B string notes with authority. Would I be willing give up 25% of that cabs sound and power handling capablilities for a slightly smaller cab and 10 lbs or so...no way! I think the AE210 or a pair of AE112s is a good option for those with portablitity issues.

    That said...I'm sure anything Jim makes would be great and have it's own loyal fans!
  17. McHack


    Jul 29, 2003
    Central Ohio!
    I originally WANTED an AE310... then I bought an AE410, & see absolutely NO need to go smaller.
  18. Shiveringbass


    Aug 21, 2005
    My 4x10" is as compact as the AE410 (1 more inch in width but one less in tall) and I could perfectly go smaller and lighter, 62lbs is still quite heavy when you have stairs

    I don't wanna go as small as a 2x10"

    So 3x10" is the perfect compromise, for me imho.
  19. Bassist30

    Bassist30 Supporting Member

    Mar 19, 2004
    Agree. Just got the AE410 and i like the size. A 310 will not sound as fat as a 410 of the same company using the same drivers,etc.
  20. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    DFW, Texas
    There's a balancing act between innovation and marketing.
    Doubtless, Jim B has considered an AE310.
    He seems to like to keep his current production spread limited due to the size of his company.
    I believe that at this moment, he has more models than at any time in his history.
    It would really surprise me if the AE series doesn't displace the HS series.
    You could probably take the number of people who say they are definitely interested in an AE310 and then divide that by something around 20 to 30 and end up pretty close to actual sales.
    My main interest is to see Jim Bergantino prosper in his business because he is a heck of a nice guy, a genius of an engineer, and a builder of some of the best cabs I've ever had the joy of hearing.

    Live long and prosper, Jim!

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