Bergantino ae210 Horizontal vs vertical?

Best to go vertical, one cab or two.

 

@Wasnex might stop by...

 

Make vertical line of 4 speakers, instead of a typical 4x square arrangement. Put all four speakers into a single line vertically.

 

I haven't used these cabs. I did a bit of Googling and it looks like the horizontal version was the original and the vertical version was an update.

In looking at the images, its possible that the dimensions are the same, they just changed the location of the badge, handles, and feet. But I can't find anything definitive on this. I would not want to mix cabs as it would not be as visually appealing. So, I would go with two of the vertical version. The reason is I think having the top driver closer to your ears is beneficial. Also being an optimist, I assume the vertical version is somewhat of an evolution, and thus better.

 

You might like this thread Difference between various Bergantino models? although it doesn't mention anything about the CN series.

 

I am a 210 vertical stack believer!!

Some light reading.

 

I wonder if the V & H AE210 are the same size. Bet they are.
Maybe confirm over in the Bergantino mega thread.

I’m a 2xCN210 user, and those cabs are killer in multiple ways.
I think the “new” version is the HDN210.

My CN210 is a vertical cab, but for a few bucks, I added feet on the side and now have the vertical or horizontal option.

I’m mostly running them horizontally, but did the vertical stack on my last gig because the stage was so tight.
Even horizontal, the drivers are offset, so not like an old school 410.

I bet I have some pics I can post up if your interested.

I thinker @J.Wolf is a 2xCN210 user, and I think he runs them horizontal, but uses some kind of pad on the floor and in between.

 

Depends what he wants. If one is after low end then perhaps horizontal is a better placement. Lifting speakers in the air tends to detract from the low end.

 

IME. I it only detracts from hearing the mids, thus emphasizing the lows, because it's ponting at your knees instead of your ears, as a vertical stack does.

IMO, how you sound on stage is irrelevant to how you sit in the mix. FOH is really the only place to judge that.

 

Absolutely, I won't question this.

I would also agree with you that lifting the speaker probably detracts more at the lower mids but IME it certainly also detracts from the low end a decent amount. In any way, low mid freqs also represent a big portion of perceived low end so I wouldn't dismiss it completely. As I said, IMO depends on what the user wants. For reggae (as a nice example) I wouldn't want to miss on the low mid and low end mojo.

I agree that a monitor is a monitor nevertheless, as long as there is FOH to support it that is. When you rely on your gear only proper gear placement plays a considerably bigger role.

 

I run my pair of CN210's vertical and horizontal. Depending on the setting/stage etc... I just cut a piece of 1/2 dense foam mat (the jigsaw puzzle kind you can get at Lowes) to put between them, instead of adding feet which could have messed with the fit of the covers possibly. Works great.

Probably mostly a height/proximity to ears thing, but I want to say that vertically its more articulate and present, and stacked horizontally its more fat and thick sounding. Could be true, could be totally intellectually biased, could be anthropomorphizing my rig and making sonic attribution based on physical appearance. Who knows. bottom line is that they sound great either way, and if I know its gonna be a loud/busy mix I definitely run em vertical so the drivers are closer to ear level.

 

Just a thought:

I wonder if the horizontal is any worse than a single 210? Seems like a single would be the same height off the floor. So unless we’re putting a single 210 on a stand....

 

my pair horizontal is WAY bigger sounding with a lot more throw than a single CN210.

 

Comparing two horizontal to one vertical is kind of apples and oranges.
One cab is 22" high. Two cabs vertical is 37" tall. --- so over a foot taller (closer to your ear)... not to mention double the speakers.

The CN210 is a really impressive cab, but ANY single 210 can only do so much - no matter how the speakers are aligned.

 

Looks like the dimensions are the same for the H & V AE cabs - as far as what I can find on the internet.
The Horizontal has little feet cups on the top - obviously intended to be stacked (horizontal) with a second cab.
I don't think there would be anything funny about having one of each... if you can get past things like the feet cups, badges and handles being different. Some guys are picky about that stuff. Easy to add feet, or do foam like j.wolf.

I've never played the AE cab, so can't comment on the tone vs the CN. I have a feeling the CN might be easier to come by.

 

Vertical stack...


Horizontal stack (in action)...