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Bergie 322, Boogie Approved

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by boogiebass, Jul 20, 2003.

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  1. Jul 20, 2003 #1
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Got this Bergantino HT322 last week from our own Adrian Garcia at Access Bass.

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    Sweet deal, sweet cab! Now I see why this cab is so popular. Great single cab, no question. Of course, I got the Bergie cover, too.

    Mine had its maiden voyage at an outoor pool party/casual yesterday. I used it with the rig pictured:

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    Bergantino's cabs are very much to my taste. I also own the HT112, HT210 and HT115. I had been looking for a single cab that would cut it on the majority of my gigs and this one may well be it. Although a bit heavy at 94 lbs., it is exceptionally clean and full-range. I used my Fodera Monarch 6 fretless and Elrick Gold Standard 7 on this gig. Even outdoors, the cab delivered great clarity without sacrificing low-end warmth and it also has the punch I like about 10's. I really like the large wheels on the thing, too. Very easy to move around.


    This cab delivers the best sound I've found in a single bass cab so far. Of course, I prefer the sound of Bergantino cabs so YMMV. But when compared to a comparably hefty 410 (e.g., Eden D410XLT, Mesa Boogie Road Ready or SWR Goliath III), the Bergie clearly has more range and clarity. As with all Bergantinos, however, mucho watts is recommended. I was using 1600 watts by mono-bridging the Stewart into this one.
     
  2. Jul 20, 2003 #2
    lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    SW, OK
    Congratulations, Boogie. I get more amazed by the 322 with every gig I play and the more I get "my sound" dialed in.

    [Side note just from curiousity: can you get a clean sound outta your rig with the DB659? If so, what tubes are you using?]
     
  3. Jul 20, 2003 #3
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Man, to be honest with you, I really don't know! I've never had it open. I assume they're whatever tubes Aguilar ships when new. I find this preamp can be reasonably clean but not "clean" like the Dem 201, for instance. Its character is definitely fatter. Lately, I've really been prefering it, however, because its such a great match with the Stew and the Bergie cabs. It also sounds superb with the Fodera (and my other active basses). Here's a pic of the rig with the basses I used yesterday:

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  4. Jul 21, 2003 #4
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    I really like the combination of the 659 and the 1.6 with a Berg cab. It does a lot of things right.
     
  5. Jul 21, 2003 #5
    Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Maryland, between DC and Bawlmer
    And I thought I couldn't be more envious of your amp collection. :eek: Congrats! I already have a couple of Berg cabs, but I'd *love* to add a 322.
     
  6. Jul 21, 2003 #6
    lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    SW, OK
    I would like to add a db659 so I could switch between the Dem (clean) and Ag (funky).

    [SideTrack: Would an EBS MultiDrive do the same thing for less $$?]
     
  7. Jul 21, 2003 #7
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Yeah, this 322 is really good, Ken. Couldn't recommend it more highly. And Adrian, the cat I bought it from, (a very fine bassist as you probably know) uses one himself. That tells me it works well in the real world of nightly gigging. I don't gig anywhere near as much as AG, but so far I'm very impressed. I'll break it out again on 8/9.
     
  8. Jul 21, 2003 #8
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Having them both in the same rack would certainly give you a LOT of flexibility of tone. Overkill for me but maybe it would work for you. As to the EBS, I doubt it. But you never know. I have no real experience with that unit.
     
  9. Jul 21, 2003 #9
    Zoot H Rollo

    Zoot H Rollo

    May 10, 2000
    Redmond, WA
    you broke my 212's heart!

    ;)

    f
     
  10. Jul 22, 2003 #10
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Oh, yeah. Huh. Well, PM me some pics and shoot me yer best price. We might still deal. ;)
     
  11. Jul 22, 2003 #11
    adrian garcia

    adrian garcia In Memoriam

    Apr 9, 2001
    las vegas. nevada
    Endorsing Artist: Nordy Basses, Schroeder Cabs, Gallien Krueger Amps
    i hear that Adrian guy is full of it, can't really play and clears 2 gigs year!!:D
    guys, the Bergie 322 is all that and a bag of chips- a really great single cab that kicks at lo and hi volumes- i use the EBS Classic pre and a qsc 2402 ( yep, 2400 watts into the 322's 4 ohms) and it delivers night after night- my other favorite Berg cab being the ht 112- with my beloved F bass i am satisfied for once!
    congrats, Boogie- your gear is mouthwatering!!- peace!- A.
     
  12. Jul 22, 2003 #12
    temp5897

    temp5897 Guest

    I'm jealous boogie! That is the very cab I plan on buying from Adrian hopefully soon...

    I miss that fretless!!! :mad: :)
     
  13. Jul 22, 2003 #13
    cephas45

    cephas45

    May 11, 2001
    Lake Worth, Florida
    Right you are my man.
     
  14. Jul 22, 2003 #14
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    That Fodera is attaching itself to me on gigs lately, I've noticed! ;)
     
  15. Jul 22, 2003 #15
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Yeah, man. I dig the HT112, too. I use mine on a stand with the EA iamp600. Killer in a small room. :cool:
     
  16. Aug 5, 2003 #16
    Big String

    Big String Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Northwest Indiana
    Hi Adrian,
    If you remember me we spoke before. I am using a 2402 and trying to bridge more now. I have a Dem201s.

    I'm wondering if you turn the gain (channel one) on the 2402 all the way up while bridging ?
     
  17. Aug 5, 2003 #17
    adrian garcia

    adrian garcia In Memoriam

    Apr 9, 2001
    las vegas. nevada
    Endorsing Artist: Nordy Basses, Schroeder Cabs, Gallien Krueger Amps
    Sure, man. I remember-
    it has been a subject of discussion and no one seems to know the "right " way- but i keep my vol on my power mp all the way up- at all times.
     
  18. Aug 5, 2003 #18
    lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    SW, OK
    BS,

    Someone (it may have been Adrian) recommended running the PLX's with the Clip Limiter turned off, because it sounds better.

    I believe it was you that mentioned the bridge mode sounding kind of "stuffed up" (if I remember correctly; that really matches what I hear as well; I thought maybe it was my bass; I blame everything on my poor bass--even my poor playing).
    The last few gigs, I've been running mine bridged with the clip limiter off (& low filters off) and it seems to have less of the "stuffed up" kind of sound to it that way. Or maybe I'm just mental (or maybe it's both).

    I suggest you give it a whirl.

    I have never even blipped my clip lights, so unless you drive yours to EXTREME volumes, I would imagine your cab should be safe.
     
  19. Aug 5, 2003 #19
    Big String

    Big String Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Northwest Indiana
    Thanks Lo and Adrian for getting back.
    I'll probably keep running the amp gain all the way to get the most out of it and just watch the input signal.

    As far as the clip limiter and filter, I have not run them off yet. Would I turn them off on both channels since it is bridged?

    I on the other hand have seen the red clip light come on when I slap my basses. When I compensate for that the finger style is not as loud then. It is sometimes difficult to bring the volumne up and down on the bass...
     
  20. Aug 5, 2003 #20
    tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    On a prior "power amp gain setting" related thread, Bob Lee recommended that you send the hottest signal that you can to your power amp, and then turn up the gain on the power amp to match the desired volume. This way, you minimize the amount of "noise" being amplified. I am sure that Bob (and others) can (and have) state(d) this theory with more accuracy. You may be able to find Bob's own words if you do a search on this forum.

    At any rate, I have been running my rack rigs like this right from the get go, and it has worked well for me. I send as strong of a signal as I can out of my Navigator (watching the meters and keeping out of the red) and then turn the gain on my PLX 3002 up as necessary. I don't think that I have ever been past 50% gain on the 3002.

    Hope this helps, Tom.
     
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